how much bhp your car got with td04?/
29 January 2005, 05:50 PM
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with full de-cat and tek 3 mine run 251 bhp at powerstation
bit low but PS rollers run low
now ive added headers,K+N 57i and tek 3 by bob rawle,havent got it on the rollers yet but i can certainly feel a difference.
but iirc a td04 is only worth going up to around 280 bhp
ive got a vf34 and 550cc injectors and hyperflow tmic on the way.
should be 310 ish with that lot on and another tweak by bob
bit low but PS rollers run low
now ive added headers,K+N 57i and tek 3 by bob rawle,havent got it on the rollers yet but i can certainly feel a difference.
but iirc a td04 is only worth going up to around 280 bhp
ive got a vf34 and 550cc injectors and hyperflow tmic on the way.
should be 310 ish with that lot on and another tweak by bob
30 January 2005, 12:19 AM
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I got 284bhp at PE (282 IIRC second time I went). Ported OEM headers, up-pipe, APS sports cat exhaust, samco intercooler hose at the time.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
30 January 2005, 03:24 AM
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ic.... so its quite hard to break the 300bhhp barier with the standard TD04.... know what to do now.. so how much bhp can a WRX engin hold up?? what about gear box??? The car is a bugeye
thx
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thx
ken
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30 January 2005, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hades
I got 284bhp at PE (282 IIRC second time I went). Ported OEM headers, up-pipe, APS sports cat exhaust, samco intercooler hose at the time.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
30 January 2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oceanstarBug
ic.... so its quite hard to break the 300bhhp barier with the standard TD04.... know what to do now.. so how much bhp can a WRX engin hold up?? what about gear box??? The car is a bugeye
thx
ken
thx
ken
Originally Posted by hades
I got 284bhp at PE (282 IIRC second time I went). Ported OEM headers, up-pipe, APS sports cat exhaust, samco intercooler hose at the time.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
Have to admit to being very suspicious of Granby's torque - no offense, but I have never seen another TD04 above 275 without more mods than exhaust, filter and ECUTEK, more usually they seem to get around 260. I have known PE to ****-up with their calculation of gearing, leading to wrong torque figures.
Bugeye version of TD04 is good for 300 on a good day with right supporting mods on optimistic rollers. Best ever AFAIK is 312 at PE, he had GGR sports cat exhaust, up-pipe, APS TMIC, samco hoses, possibly ported headers. Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
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30 January 2005, 10:40 AM
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bob does like torque though
so,having a higer torque figure than bhp is quite understandable if bobs had his mits on it ;-)
he's just done mine and im looking to get on some rollers soon to see the torque figures
were 234 iirc at powerstation,, bet its nearer 300 now , and thats on the td04
but have also added headers,up-pipe and induction kit
so,having a higer torque figure than bhp is quite understandable if bobs had his mits on it ;-)
he's just done mine and im looking to get on some rollers soon to see the torque figures
were 234 iirc at powerstation,, bet its nearer 300 now , and thats on the td04
but have also added headers,up-pipe and induction kit
30 January 2005, 04:36 PM
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Ken,
Currently running MY01 WRX (Bugeye) at 368bhp with no problems with engine, gearbox or clutch. All OEM at present. Has covered 52k miles in total with the last 20k around the 350bhp mark.
Hope this helps
Martin
Currently running MY01 WRX (Bugeye) at 368bhp with no problems with engine, gearbox or clutch. All OEM at present. Has covered 52k miles in total with the last 20k around the 350bhp mark.
Hope this helps
Martin
30 January 2005, 05:42 PM
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on my gravel express,95/96 wrx
full decat
induction kit
fmic
dump valve
walbro fuel pump.fse regulator
at power engineering 249bhp..259lb torque
just needs remap then the figures should be a bit better,
trekkker
full decat
induction kit
fmic
dump valve
walbro fuel pump.fse regulator
at power engineering 249bhp..259lb torque
just needs remap then the figures should be a bit better,
trekkker
30 January 2005, 07:27 PM
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MY00 Uk LINK ecu 255bhp at Powerstation.
257Ft/Torque... Mapped by our BOB
www.ashlyn.plus.com/graphs/dynofebruary2003.jpg
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257Ft/Torque... Mapped by our BOB
www.ashlyn.plus.com/graphs/dynofebruary2003.jpg
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30 January 2005, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Granby
No offence taken as I'm not 100% convinced but there were 20 odd cars run on that day on PE's rollers and most were showing normal torque figures i.e around the bhp figure.
Which of course, proves nothing whatsoever re: your car - if the 300 is genuine, good for you!
Back to original question, the most I'm aware of on a standard WRX bottom end was mid 380s (numerous mods, TD05 with Garrett wheel, etc). This was then tuned further - headers, another remap - probably taking it to ~ 400 and promptly blew a hole in no 4 piston. The gearbox had only lasted about a week at that power before 3rd gear gave up, although the owner did believe in "drive it like you stole it"!. For long term reliable use at higher power, Martin (Ninnybob) is the best I know of.
31 January 2005, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninnybobs
Ken,
Currently running MY01 WRX (Bugeye) at 368bhp with no problems with engine, gearbox or clutch. All OEM at present. Has covered 52k miles in total with the last 20k around the 350bhp mark.
Hope this helps
Martin
Currently running MY01 WRX (Bugeye) at 368bhp with no problems with engine, gearbox or clutch. All OEM at present. Has covered 52k miles in total with the last 20k around the 350bhp mark.
Hope this helps
Martin
thx
31 January 2005, 07:00 PM
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No he's not, he's running with standard engine & gearbox internals, which was the second question asked. No matter how much money youhave, I somehow doubt you'll ever see a 2 litre scoob at 368 with only one TD04 fitted
01 February 2005, 02:24 PM
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277/279 on a td04 in my jdm forester with supporting mods.
280 is about your lot on a td04 IMHO mapped safely
280 is about your lot on a td04 IMHO mapped safely
01 February 2005, 02:40 PM
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278bhp & 274ft/lb
UK MY99 - standard ECU
HKS EVC4 set to 1.18bar
Full de-cat (Scoobysport 2.5" downpipe, Magnex centre with resonator & Scoobysport backbox)
Unifilter Rampod induction kit
UK MY99 - standard ECU
HKS EVC4 set to 1.18bar
Full de-cat (Scoobysport 2.5" downpipe, Magnex centre with resonator & Scoobysport backbox)
Unifilter Rampod induction kit
01 February 2005, 02:43 PM
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I know of a couple of cars that have been run to 400 on standard uk internals. My own must be around 380 standard insides, and no problems for the last 8000 miles. clutch obviously gave up, but no problems with the gearbox as yet (touch wood).
I'd say the same, about 280 max for a td04.
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I'd say the same, about 280 max for a td04.
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02 February 2005, 10:56 AM
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Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between a TD04 and a TD04L.
I am just about to fit one to my Forrester and get it remapped and just wanted to know if 280 is the max for this also.
Cheers
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I am just about to fit one to my Forrester and get it remapped and just wanted to know if 280 is the max for this also.
Cheers
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02 February 2005, 06:04 PM
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No idea was fitted on the car when I bought it. I must admit we were all surprised when we spotted what it was. mind the spool up was unbelievable. this is the big debate i am having with a few people now. I changed it for a vf22 and I also have a vf35 and was wondering if I am better leaving the vf22 or going for the vf 35 or doing an upgrade on the vf22. But thats for another thread.
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He's one of them. That was back on his first engine. 
Originally Posted by hades
Two others I know of got ~299 at PE.
02 February 2005, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hades
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He's one of them. That was back on his first engine.
He's one of them. That was back on his first engine.
stayed like that for a while until i decided to go a bit further It then blew!
02 February 2005, 10:12 PM
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03 February 2005, 10:59 AM
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Although i really don't want to ruin the thread by starting an argument (does anyone hear the zipping up of the flame suit ) I'd have to say anyone making 300bhp on a TD04 have probably been on some 'optomistic' rollers. At sensible boost levels 280 should be about the maximum. Personally I wouldn't go looking for more than 260 without changing the turbo (I know this is easily achievable).
Did you not find the TD04 had run out of boost by 5500rpm on the type R?
Dave
) I'd have to say anyone making 300bhp on a TD04 have probably been on some 'optomistic' rollers. At sensible boost levels 280 should be about the maximum. Personally I wouldn't go looking for more than 260 without changing the turbo (I know this is easily achievable).Did you not find the TD04 had run out of boost by 5500rpm on the type R?
Dave