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Old 23 March 2004, 01:43 PM
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Default Bosch Lambda - Anyone got the Pt.No

I hear that the Bosch Lambda's are alot better then the majority of other Universal Lambda sensors.

Has anyone gor the Bosch number and I'll oder one from my local Bosch dealer.

My current universal one is v.dodge on cold running. Although it is fine when warmed thu'
Old 23 March 2004, 01:46 PM
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The OE one is Bosch AFAIK, just with the Subaru plug.

If the OE has a Bosch part#, then it could be sourced through a Dealer as you say.

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Old 23 March 2004, 03:47 PM
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Scott,

The sensors are the same between makes and models.

All you need is the right no. of wires/ wire length.

Mark
Old 23 March 2004, 07:28 PM
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Bosch part no for 3 wire sensor is 0258 003 254. For the 4 wire sensors use the Bosch universal 0258 986 505. I find the 505 works very well on 3 wire models as well with sensor earth tied to ground. This way the sensor does not have to rely on the exhaust for earth.

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Originally Posted by jgevers
Bosch part no for 3 wire sensor is 0258 003 254. For the 4 wire sensors use the Bosch universal 0258 986 505. I find the 505 works very well on 3 wire models as well with sensor earth tied to ground. This way the sensor does not have to rely on the exhaust for earth.

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Cheers Job....

FYI the Bosch Part Number on the Sensors are not recognised by Bosch dealers. Something to do with it not being a genral released part.

Therefore I assume the part number above does not come with the Scoobie Connector ??
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I would imagine not. Bosch will be contracted to make the OE parts for Subaru.

You can get the original Subaru one from other suppliers than Subaru UK, so there must be some distribution channel for them.

If the part is the same in other markets (i.e. Europe, JDM, USDM) then it's feasible to source from there cheaper that the UK.

Would need some help from a Bosch dealer/agent to find out how the distribution channel works.

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Old 24 March 2004, 04:18 PM
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The 254 sensor does have connector, 505 doesn't. I keep the 505 in stock, but I would need to order the 254.

By the way, I am a Bosch Service Agent / Bosch Car Centre.

regards,
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What's the price for the two models Job?
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The 505 is £40 +the dreaded. To late for me to call Bosch, but I'll have the price for the 254 tomorrow (we normally use the 505).

regards,

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Old 24 March 2004, 06:51 PM
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£40 + for a decent four wire sensor ain't half bad; will have to give you a buzz!
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The 254 sensor has been superceded and the last 3 digits are now 995.

The 995 and the 505 are available from Bosch UK - I was quoted prices of £44 plus VAT for the 505 and £56 plus VAT for the 995. Prices include a £5 delivery charge from Bosch to my local motor factor.

What would they cost through you Job?

Cheers

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Old 25 March 2004, 10:42 AM
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Job,

Are you the same man from sunny Dunfermline that our good friend John Banks has recommended?

If so, welcome onboard

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Old 25 March 2004, 11:04 AM
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Scott; alternative numbers for the above Bosch uni's are 0258003254 goes to 0258986002 or LS02, 0258986505 goes to LS05- my company Facet UK ( factory in Italy)make both as universals only at the mo- should be around the £40 mark from a Factor.

PS if you are a Factor operation the prices to trade are significantly lower.

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Old 25 March 2004, 11:13 AM
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Just checked our website updates and we are releasing the OE style direct fit lambda around Sept this year; Subaru OE is 22690-AA500 94-2000' will contact Simon on release to see if we can supply the Sccoby Shop direct.
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i can get the 505 sensor for £30 can someone confirm that it can be modded to work in place of the 3 wire ones
cheers richie
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Originally Posted by richieh
i can get the 505 sensor for £30 can someone confirm that it can be modded to work in place of the 3 wire ones
cheers richie
Yes it can, just run the 4th wire (Gnd) to chassis or battery neg terminal.

Where can you get for £30 as would be interested.
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So the spare wire on my lambdasensor that isnt plugged into the loom, I just ground somewhere right?
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Most convenient option would be to the earthing point above the anti-beaming bracket on the front bulkhead, but the best option would be to pipe it through the bulkhead and terminate it on the ECU case.
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Hi,

Yes, I am that person from Dunfermline. £30 for the 505 is a really good price. The best I can do is 35 plus dreaded.

When you use a 4 wire zirconia sensor on a car with a 3 wire zirconia sensor, you need to run the grey wire (sensor earth) to any earth on the vehicle. In my opinion it is better to use a 4 wire. That way the sensor does not have to rely on the exhaust for signal earth.

regards,

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used to work for bosch so its staff discount price cos all my m8s still work there
its actually £28.30
richie richie@richieszone.fsnet.co.uk
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Job. Just to say thanks again for the sensor and advice. Hopefully I can get this problem sorted out now.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by RichWalk
Just checked our website updates and we are releasing the OE style direct fit lambda around Sept this year; Subaru OE is 22690-AA500 94-2000' will contact Simon on release to see if we can supply the Sccoby Shop direct.
Any more news on the release date of the OE sensor, and what it's likley to be priced at ??
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Is this Bosch "505" 4 wire lambda a suitable replacement for the front 02 A-F sensor on the Newage Imprezas?

Thanks
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Have Bosch release the OE sensor yet i.e with the correct connector or do we still have to use a universal one.
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looking for one for a MY01 car.. any help???
Old 25 November 2004, 03:48 AM
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Looking for a spare for a MY00 STi6 RA

Price (if cheap enough, I'll have 2!)

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