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Anyone on here have any instructions or information on how to fit these to the 22b bumper?
Even photos of them fitted to there bumper without the bezel fitted?
Or a link to someone thats fitted them..
Im really at a dead end here and cant seem to get them sorted, any help here wil be greatly appreciated
Thank you..
1. Are you aware that the PIAA kit does not contain foglamps, but driving lights, so MUST, by law, be wired into the headlight main beam?
2. Are you sure that what you have is PIAA lamps?
3. Do you have the brackets?
4. I'm not sure what you mean about the bezels? The lamps cannot be fitted with any sort of cover, or surround, they fit in the spaces revealed when the foglamp covers are removed.
What i have is the PIAA driving lamps, round lamp about 6inchs around with piaa wrote in the glass
They came with circle rings that the lamp fits in, ant these mount to the bumper, full loom PIAA white relay and loom and adapter from headlamp plug which I assume leaves them goin on an off with the main beam..
The bezel as i call it is the plastic surrounding that sits into the bumper an around the lamp also? I don't have that piece which leave me I don't know how far the lamps sit back into the bumper?
I also have wee bolts with springs which i assume mount the lamp and leaves ya able to adjust?
Aww god no uv took me up wrong here, I didn't mean anything smart by that, i was led to belive that the piaa kit in pics above wer the drivin lamp kit for the 22b?
Thats al i no i was trying to fit them to the bumper and its just not straight forward.. Definitely not tryin to be a know it all.. I apologise..
Thanks
The PIAA kit as sold was a pair of ordinary 6" or so PIAA driving lights, complete with the bits that allowed them to be bolted to a lamp bracket/lamp bar, like on older rally cars. The bits that did that were fastened to the lamp housing and had a M10 or so bolt facing downward with locknut. Like a standard bumper-mount spotlight, still sold today. You had to drill the Impreza bumper support bar and fit them that way. The kit also included all the bits needed like a relay and wiring to comply with laws on driving lights. (They must extinguish when you select dip beam).
The kit you have is designed for a lamp pod, like the ones that sit on the top of a car's bonnet etc. The clue is in the three bolts with springs. they are the adjusters and also locate the lamps onto a metal ring set into the lamp pod. Unless you can mod your bumper quite heavily, I don't think what you have will fit.
As for the surrounds, they look decent, but may be aftermarket. I've never seen a Scoob with those before. The only ones like those were fitted to the P1 and they were for Hella 90mm lamps.
Your best bet is probably asking on 22B.com
Last edited by alcazar; 29 February 2016 at 05:02 PM.
Yea you have hit the nail on the head with mine, they have the springs and bolts all in a wee kit here..
And i say i wil have to make some sort of mountin bracket to get them to sit in my bumper somehow.. If someone else had done this id lik to see it..
Yea that surround is of a 22b type uk, that is what I believe that prodrive fitted to the 16 uk 22b cars.. They are a tidy but off kit
And thanks for your reply here, i do appreciate it, if you have any more advice for me dont b afraid to shout..
You could always fabricate, or design and have someone fabricate, a b pair of brackets to fit to the bumper, to which the PIAA's would then fasten using the mountings supplied?
A simple drawing with dimensions would get it done.
Then start searching for the surrounds, either via a Scoob dealer, or aftermarket. Or leave 'em off...that's what the common or garden cars, (not 22B's) do
Here's mine with Hella 1000FF HID lights:
You could fit HID aftermarket kits to your PIAA's, I believe?
mine now has the newer V5/6 front bumper and grille too, plus a P1 splitter.
Last edited by alcazar; 29 February 2016 at 10:13 PM.
To the OP. Can you post a photo of the back of the PIAA lamps you have and of the bumper you'll be fitting them into, showing the empty hole if you know what I mean?
I fitted a set of PIAA driving lights instead of the oe fogs on a standard V3 so could help if the fitting is the same or similar.
You are going to have to get something made up with three holes in the same position as those on the black support ring, so that the bolts with springs can be fitted. Ideally, I think it needs to have nuts welded to it so that those screws can be held captive.
The screws then support, and are used to adjust, the light units, which are, in turn, clamped in by the black metal rings.
Oh...and those being PIAA lights, make some determined effort to SEAL the backs of the light units against water ingress before finally fitting...a coat or three of a rubberised damp proof course paint would be my choice. Many of the PIAA kits failed after a year or so because the reflectors were rotten.
Actually, having looked again, those little black bits with three holes, central one tapped, look as if they MIGHT bolt to the bumper. Then you pass the stainless cap screws through the lamp surround, already fitted to the lamp, fit a spring and thread the screw into the central hole on the bits you just fitted.
Screw down about half way, clamping the spring.
Now adjustment is by tightening in further, or releasing...when the spring moves the light back out??
Last edited by alcazar; 01 March 2016 at 08:14 PM.
Yea you are 100% right here, i think the ring fits to the holes in the bumper, but I would also agree with making another ring that supports behind the bumper cause it would strengthen it up save it hangin on the plastic bumper...
Its just hard to take the plunge an start drilling, plus without the lamp surrounding I don't no how deep they are meant to sit into the bumper..
Be brilliant if i seen a photo of someone that had them fitted..
If you plan on getting the lamp surrounds I'd wait till you have them before you start drilling in case you fit the lamps off centre.
With the bumper off the car it should make the whole job easier as you can offer up the lamps and surrounds and know exactly where you need to drill.
You don't need to drill at all. Look at your bumper: there are three places at about 120 deg to each other, each having three holes, which, I guess, will EXACTLY match the spacing on the holes for the little metal bits...which ALSO have three holes, centre one threaded.
I would bolt those to the bumper, using either stainless bolts with stainless penny washers behind them, or make up some similar bits, but larger, with the same hole spacing: to transfer some of the load, spread it, if you like. Make out of 2mm alloy, cheap as chips off ebay if you look carefully, easy to cut with a metal blade in a jig saw and easy to drill, plus it'll never rust.
DO use all stainless nuts and bolts through
The weight of the lamps isn't much, and supported at three points, they aren't going to wag about, so your bumper will be fine.
Once you have those in place, fasten one of the support rings round the lamp unit and hold it in place. Ensure the lamp is upright when the three holes in the support ring are over the three supports, or the beams will be all over the place My bet is that it'll fit fine. When the springs are in place you will see it's rigid enough and the three adjusters help to set the aim accurately...long straight dark road needed to check.
DO make sure to coat the PIAA rears with rubberised damp proof course etc. And use any bulb-holder covers provided!!!
DO use only stainless bolts, screws washers and nuts.
DO ensure that the support rings are also treated against rust: Hammerite etc, and replace any screws in them with stainless.
At that height off the ground they are prone to rust from damp/salt.
Also, if you can, find some clear plastic lens covers...they are also prone to stone chips
Last edited by alcazar; 02 March 2016 at 10:48 AM.
Its a matter of just startin at it an trial an error, ya see there seems to be a right and left in the rings, cause there is two of the brackets for mountin in facin up and one facin down,so its hard to no which side is which, and wheather to mount it on inside or outside of bumper.
The stainless steel bolts is a good idea I wouldn't of thought off that.. Haha
Do you mean the lamp support rings? I'd try them in the bumper, see which way they fit best.
Looking again at your lit, the little three-hole bits seem to be going to be fitted to the bumper with pop-rivets. That assumes you have a pop riveter.
See thats it iv tried the rings in both sides both ways an it doesn't seem to sit in properly, there is one bracket on the ring that will sit away from the bumper, unless im suppose to have to adjusting bolts facing out towards the front of the car and the other facing in towards the radiator for example?
If you get wer im comin from
I can see what you mean, but I don't think it matters. The surrounds MAY be designed like that to allow the outers (lamp covers with holes) to fit, but without seeing one, we don't know.
Basically, I think you need to fit the little three hole supports, then fit the lamps to the surrounds and just put the screws through.......one MIGHT be set as it is to get the lamp to shine straight down the road..the bumper IS curved after all?
I DON'T think they fit like you showed in the bottom pic of post 15, but from the front.
So you put the stainless screw through the surround, place a spring on it and screw into the central hole in the support piece. screw in until the lamp sits level both horizontally and vertically.
Even if the cover doesn't fit, it would simply be a case of removing the three screws, loosening the surround, and swapping it to the other side etc??
I'll expect to see these fitted over the weekend, no more excuses!
Last edited by alcazar; 03 March 2016 at 09:20 PM.
Ya no I think we are getting places here now, with al the chattin here iv it picture in me head of how its goes, the one bracket facin up will go to the top an the bolt will go through cover an all.
And you will laff at this, iv been tryin al week to get at them an because we are on a farm iv been flat at cattle al week and it's looking like Saturday is gona be the same and i wont get at them.. Lol
27 February 2016, 11:46 PM
Piaa fog lamps 22b
