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Old 19 October 2015, 04:35 PM
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Default clutch mod, clutch delay valve ????

Ive bought a clutch braided hose. in america they are doing what they call the clutch mod, our uk master cylinder is some what different to theres.
ours have 2 pipes coming off the master cylinder which run off in to a maze of pipes. what i need to no is which pipe on ours can i blank and which one to use direct to the slave cylinder,
subaru did this to stop loading up the tranny ect (delay valve)
exeddy recommend to do this mod with there clutchs..
is a classic slave cylinder the same as a 04 sti 6 speed slave. ????
Old 19 October 2015, 04:38 PM
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'Loading up the tranny'. What's that?
Old 19 October 2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
'Loading up the tranny'. What's that?
getting the ladyboy drunk??
Old 19 October 2015, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
getting the ladyboy drunk??
That thought did come to mind, but I didn't want to declare anything that might be seen as coming from experience
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shock.. dropping the clutch for launching, there is a very slight delay with the standered setup. your only talking split second but if you change gear 4 times on a strip then removing this delay setup should make times a fraction better, plus its ment to give you a more consistent pedal. plus i can do away with the mile of piping to run the slave...
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
getting the ladyboy drunk??
wel done my mate
Old 19 October 2015, 04:51 PM
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I was just wondering where the wonderful Americanism came from.
In drag speak, 'loading up the tranny' is what you do with a high stall converter on an automatic box when the car is staged.
Old 19 October 2015, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I was just wondering where the wonderful Americanism came from.
In drag speak, 'loading up the tranny' is what you do with a high stall converter on an automatic box when the car is staged.
so you just wanted to take the **** out of my english yes.. wel done you cracked it. surpose you would load up any tranny (gearbox) before launch, (biteing point)
back to the qs in hand lol. 2004 blob sti, should of put it in firstly, sorry.
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Old 19 October 2015, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 4u2nv2
so you just wanted to take the **** out of my english yes.. wel done you cracked it. surpose you would load up any tranny (gearbox) before launch, (biteing point)
back to the qs in hand lol. 2004 blob sti, should of put it in firstly, sorry.
Nothing to do with your English, or grammar. As said it's an Americanism, and you were talking about a mod popular in America. Simples!
You can't 'load up' a manual box. The biting point is the clutch, not the gearbox (tranny).
Old 19 October 2015, 05:07 PM
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uk setup, i want to do away with all the pipes ect but i need to now which pipe on the master to block off and which one to use direct to the slave..
also is a 04 sti slave the same as a classic...
Old 19 October 2015, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Nothing to do with your English, or grammar. As said it's an Americanism, and you were talking about a mod popular in America. Simples!
You can't 'load up' a manual box. The biting point is the clutch, not the gearbox (tranny).

oh i see, just a figger of speech buddy to be honest, the reading of the naiso (america forums) for the last few hours has rubbed off lol. not much of this in the uk...
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Unless you're Antron Brown you'll probably find you have far more to gain by improving your launch and driving technique in general than faffing around trying to save a few 100ths of a second on gear changes.
Old 19 October 2015, 05:26 PM
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well when your at 10 seconds them few 100ths count.
if you cant help me mate with what im asking stop posting please, dont want nor need you pennies worth.
im not asking for help regarding english or how to launch or in fact driving technique.
i want to knock off a few 100ths thankyou..
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Suit yourself.
I thought I was being helpful.
I had no idea you were so proficient.
But then again I haven't run in the 9s for at least 20 years so I've obviously lost my touch
Old 19 October 2015, 07:48 PM
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Have a look on opposed forces.
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thats great buddy, dident no about opposed forces. really handy thanks.
altho its a better pic of the layout, it doesent help regarding which one to use.
Old 20 October 2015, 11:38 AM
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Maybe it would be best to put a uk master and slave on the car.
Old 20 October 2015, 01:59 PM
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Sell it and buy something quicker, farting about with a master cylinder to try and make up for poor launching technique and lack of power is a waste of time.
Old 20 October 2015, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
Sell it and buy something quicker, farting about with a master cylinder to try and make up for poor launching technique and lack of power is a waste of time.

An Arial atom would do it hope I've spelt that ryt lol!
Old 20 October 2015, 02:41 PM
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You could invest in some semi slick footwear ��
Old 20 October 2015, 02:43 PM
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can anyone help with the question in hand..
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Originally Posted by johned
Maybe it would be best to put a uk master and slave on the car.
its a uk setup i have same as diagrams. think ill just put the classic setup on just need to now if the slave cylinders bolt and locate in the same way..
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My apologies i meant the classic set up.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
getting the ladyboy drunk??
the same when car wash crew load You fat-***
Old 20 October 2015, 08:54 PM
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Do we need this?????.(above).

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The delay valve is in the slave cylinder.
Old 20 October 2015, 10:17 PM
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Classic and 6 speed ones are slightly different, but bolt up in the same way/place.,

To remove delay valve, you'll need to remove cylinder, undo large bolt/cap remove valve and spring then replace cap.

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Originally Posted by 4u2nv2
thats great buddy, dident no about opposed forces. really handy thanks.
altho its a better pic of the layout, it doesent help regarding which one to use.

we dont have the cap on uk models, we have the setup above, no cap. we have 2 pipes coming out of our master cylinder. classic and newage 6sp slaves are the same, classic dont have all the crap on it like the newage (same as america) and also the classic has banjo fitment and newage has brake line male nut fitment.
i wonder if both the pipes coming out of the master cylinder have equal pressure and wouldent matter which one i use, be nice to rig up a dial to see if the pressures are different... im just going to try it both ways using the classic slave..
thanks for the positive input
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Good luck.


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