HI I want to get my blob wrx ppp deacatted and remapped can u get the standard ecu remapped or does it have to be ecuteked?

 

When I had my Blob PPP remapped I had to buy the ecutek licence as it was showing just the OEM map.

 

you have a choice of ECUtek or opensource mapping on your car, if you don't know anyone who can flash a rom for you then your as handy contacting the nearest recommended tuning company or someone like bob rawle who will come and map the car for you.

 

engine tuner is my closest mapper hes quoted me £420, i thought it would be a bit cheaper

 

i guess it depends what all is involved, health check beforehand/dyno run/printout/wideband etc.

consider that your paying for the experience and knowledge of the person mapping the car - it's not just the tools they use. Yes you could save some £££ by getting an ebay map and a flashing cable, but you'll spend it all and more when a crapmap leaves you with a dead engine.

I'm guessing that price probably included an ECUtek license - check out if any of the mobile mappers will be in your area soon, I know Bob comes all the way to the rainy shores of norn iron so a jaunt on the mainland shouldn't be out of the question.

 

Stay well clear of flash mapping, fastest way to blow up your car since a manual boost controller.

Some cars are fine with generic flash maps, subarus are not. last compny i know that did them blew up 7 of the 20 cars they flashed before going under and leave owners to sell shells.

 

when you say flash mapping I assume you mean flashing some generic map to the car, all ECU remapping is done by flashing the ECU with a new program. Again, blowing up X out of X cars is more likely due to not checking before hand and afterward that the map is safe for the car. Nothing to do with the tools or the tech but the guy doing the map. Sadly cowboys exist and they will charge you anything from 50 quid to 500 quid so just because the price is high doesn't mean they are any the better/worse at mapping.

A generic map that's well setup will cover a lot of cars with some caveats (look at the prodrive map for example)

That's why i said for him to find a good mapper, not necessarily a cheap mapper

 

I dont know a single decent mapper who would generic map one.

 

Francis rom performance

 

there was no history with the car when i bought it so i have no clue as to if its been mapped on top of the prodrive map already but it boosts to about 1.0bar in first 1.1/2 in second and 1.3 in 3rd 4th 5th is normal for a prodrive map on a blob?

 

:l ol1:

that a copy and paste from sioc?

 

I had a turbo back exhaust, decat up pipe, walbro, 3 port solenoid etc done on my WRX blob about 5-6 weeks ago. Was open source mapped on the Dyno, and it runs like a dream. Really smooth power/torque curves on the dyno sheet too. Depends exactly what you want for the future....but I wouldn't pay the ecutek license just for the sake of it when you don't necessarily need it.

 

it's normal to get a little less boost 1st and 2nd, 1.3 is spot on for a PPP wrx.

 

open source is very different a flash map

 

1.3 on a PPP WRX seems high to me....

Mine was only at about 1 bar before mapping and was the proper Prodrive map. Now mines had the walbro etc and the other bits done, its only been mapped to 1.3 bar now!

So maybe the car has already been mapped before beyond the standard PPP map.

 

opensource and ECUtek are both tools to allow you to flash a map to the car. When you say flash map you mean generic map, like a prodrive map or something done by "some guy"?

 

My bad.... I'm just saying that mine was mapped on the standard ECU, no EcuTek.

 

1.3 is correct for an 03+ WRX PPP:


2.3 bar absolute = 1.3 bar relative. Maybe your car wasn't running right before?

 

ah I see okay. Maybe it wasn't then.... I'm going to stay quiet on this subject now lol
Interesting to see those graphs though.

 

Ecutek is just software that allows you to map the ecu. Open source seem to have originated from earlier ecutek software but that is disputed by the open source mappers lol

As far as which is better, personally ecutek is my preference despite having to pay for a license fee.

With open source you get no support from the developer, with ecutek they support the mapper if there is a software issue. My old hawk was kicking up a CEL that turned out to be a glitch. Mapper couldn't do anything about it till ecutek patched the software, which is now in all ecutek software

like most things you pays yer money you takes yer choice, but there is massive difference between a flash and a custom map no matter what software is used.

 

Yeah I know its just software. I should have been more clear. But yeah fair point I suppose, you get what you pay for. If I was going for a higher power output than where I'm at now, like 300bhp+ then I'd definitely be more conscious of what software was being used and I'd rather have a bit more peace of mind and pay the extra. But that's just how I feel about it, other people will be different obviously.

 

true stuff:

(more info here: http://www.racedynamix.co.uk/remap/p...us-custom-map/ )

 

The thing to be crystal clear about here can be equated to this, microsoft office excel and open office calc. You can create spreadsheets, edit them etc with both programs. They both write to the same hard drive. This is the same as these two methods of mapping. Both simply write a rom file to the ecu, the ecu must understand what is there otherwise it wont work. There are small differences but in general both do the same job. The big difference is in who does it, not what they use.
The bonus with Opensource mapping is that you can take an active seat in your own cars development, should you wish. You can use romraider or ecuflash or ecuedit to view and understand what your car is trying do do under varying conditions via logging and exploring your rom offline. If you get a decat fitted, you can disable the errors etc yourself where ecutek agents would have to charge you £50 or more ( I stand to be corrected).
People go on about lack of developer support etc, has anyone actually had a problem here that required such high level help?

 

i've logged a few bugs with the romraider development guys that have been fixed pretty quick, the time I logged an issue with tactrix about my openport cable it was fixed the next morning and a new version released to everyone so it's not all doom and gloom