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Old 17 May 2002, 09:04 PM
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I seem to remember Pete Croney saying that there were issues with a lot of retard on the MY01 PPP.

I logged Mike's UK300 PPP with original up-pipe, but Magnex twin dump downpipe the other day and it was running about +8 degrees knock correction (=advance) across the range on full load.

Anyone else logged a Bugeyes PPP with only a downpipe?
Old 18 May 2002, 04:40 PM
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Anyone?

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From memory Pete was seeing about 9-11 degrees less advance with the standard uppipe and a Scoobysport full decat on a PPP'd car on a rolling road. As an RR is about the most severe test (lots of sustained power and minimal cooling air in comparison to road conditions) I guess that this would be why he found a worse case than you.

Pete's original results persauded me to change the uppipe (not to a Scoobysport, but a different manufacturer). However, I've had a number of problems with the change - the first didn't fit and the current one looks like it is beginning to develop a leak. Maybe it is better to fit one with one with a flexi-joint.

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Old 18 May 2002, 08:45 PM
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This one had a dirty great load of advance of at least +8 degrees across the range and was in rude health. I was very surprised - I was just advising the gentleman to get an up-pipe PDQ and then to see that timing was quite surprising. As it happens Falkland had a new Magnex design to try out anyway, but it is not flexible.
Old 19 May 2002, 07:04 AM
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so is it ok to fit a down pipe?
it it ok to fit up pipe?
ether together or separate?
and which is the best make ?

steve
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Old 19 May 2002, 11:13 AM
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Everyone seems to agree it is safe to fit both. On one car that I tried just a downpipe seemed OK - does not mean all will be. Up-pipe only - Caronte posted this question don't know if he had an answer.
Old 19 May 2002, 11:22 AM
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John,

I logged my friend's WRX MY01 PPP last week which has (I think) SS UP, SS DP, SS centre but with the OE rear centre silencer thing + PPP BB.

He is running about +8 deg Knock correction too....

I can a)double check the exhaust details if you like and b)mail you the trace

Matt

[Edited by mutant_matt - 5/19/2002 11:23:25 AM]
Old 19 May 2002, 11:31 AM
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That would help nicely Matt or screen dump the trace as a .gif and post on here.

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Old 19 May 2002, 11:46 AM
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John,

I'll mail you the trace, and I'll try and double check the exhaust details tomorrow....

Ta,

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Old 19 May 2002, 11:55 AM
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Old 19 May 2002, 12:02 PM
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Thanks, yes looks the same. Like the "13.5 PSI" yeah right Funnily enough mine reported the same with my fuel cut defender on, wonder why
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John,

According to his Defi's, he's peaking about 1.4 and holding 1.2-1.3 - 13.5psi is of course, the PPP doing it's thing (how annoying is it that you can't monitor the "real" boost figure on an MY01 PPP )

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