Notices
Drivetrain Gearbox, Diffs & Driveshafts etc

Helix sport clutch kit not reusable?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25 July 2011, 10:31 PM
  #1  
wotagr8bigchief
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
wotagr8bigchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: sussex
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Helix sport clutch kit not reusable?

Hello guys turns out my 94 WRX has had a Helix clutch fitted back in 2002, I've just changed the engine and put everything together as normal with the old clutch in and I've got no drive. Its like the clutch is down all the time so I'm wondering is this clutch one use? it cost nearly £500 back in 2002 and I think it is the same as this one: http://www.grahamgoode.com/subaru/pa...0&item=GGS2229

Its only covered 6000 miles since new so was hoping to keep it but looks like I'm gona have to shell out for a new one and was thinking standard exeedy but am wondering now wether the Helix clutch was fitted for a reason??
Any suggestions would be appreciated

Cheers
Old 26 July 2011, 03:21 PM
  #2  
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi,

What sort of power are you running?

Give me a call if it's easier 01462 600 241
Old 26 July 2011, 11:30 PM
  #3  
wotagr8bigchief
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
wotagr8bigchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: sussex
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Aztec Performance Ltd
Hi,

What sort of power are you running?

Give me a call if it's easier 01462 600 241
Hello mate, power wise I reckon in the region of 290-300 bhp max I was looking at your ebay item # 170668954939 would this do the trick? If so I will hit buy it now tommorow.

Cheers
Old 26 July 2011, 11:36 PM
  #4  
Jimbob
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Jimbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wotagr8bigchief
Hello guys turns out my 94 WRX has had a Helix clutch fitted back in 2002, I've just changed the engine and put everything together as normal with the old clutch in and I've got no drive. Its like the clutch is down all the time so I'm wondering is this clutch one use? it cost nearly £500 back in 2002 and I think it is the same as this one: http://www.grahamgoode.com/subaru/pa...0&item=GGS2229

Its only covered 6000 miles since new so was hoping to keep it but looks like I'm gona have to shell out for a new one and was thinking standard exeedy but am wondering now wether the Helix clutch was fitted for a reason??
Any suggestions would be appreciated

Cheers
Double check everything fella, as it`s EASY to miss something.

Remember its a PULL clutch, not a push like a normal car.

And has cable and hydraulic operation.
Old 26 July 2011, 11:49 PM
  #5  
wotagr8bigchief
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
wotagr8bigchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: sussex
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jimbob
Double check everything fella, as it`s EASY to miss something.

Remember its a PULL clutch, not a push like a normal car.

And has cable and hydraulic operation.
Cheers mate I will double check everything before buying a new one as it would be a shame to throw away a very expensive clutch. I'm not gona lie to you I have never changed a clutch before but I was there when the old engine was removed and we had a load of trouble getting it out as it was stuck on the clutch bearing. I'm wondering if we could of damaged the bearing although its visually fine. The guy that has put the new engine in for me is a very close mate but he is primarily a panel beater and this is the first time he has pulled the engine out of a scooby. He asked one of his customers that has several scoobies for advice and they told him that clutches in them are usually not re-useable. Need a second opinion methinks!
Old 26 July 2011, 11:53 PM
  #6  
Scooby Dan
Scooby Regular
 
Scooby Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sounds like he hasn't connected the clutch fork or something. If the clutch was working when it was removed it should still be working.
Old 27 July 2011, 12:00 AM
  #7  
Jimbob
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Jimbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

***** mine is a Helix autosport clutch that came with my secondhand engine.

When the engine was removed did they undo the pin that holds the clutch fork in? As that will **** up things if they have pulled it out with that inplace, as the pin comes out you lift the fork up and thats the clutch off the gearbox (apart from the shaft). Once that is off its just wiggling the engine off the studs and shaft.

I only found this out by looking one here before I replaced my engine.
Old 27 July 2011, 12:05 AM
  #8  
Jimbob
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Jimbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Should look like this.


And here`s mine on the engine when I bought it.
As it was bought and wasn`t touched before fitting.

Old 27 July 2011, 06:33 AM
  #9  
Turbo Tez
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Turbo Tez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: www.wy-scoobs.com
Posts: 1,298
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As others have said it sounds like the clutch fork hasn't been removed before the gearbox. You might get away with just a new release bearing but it's a box out job again I'm afraid. If your lucky they might just have not set the release bearing and clutch fork up properly before refitting the box
Old 27 July 2011, 07:06 AM
  #10  
mylilscooby
Scooby Regular
 
mylilscooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: southend
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if you get stuck mate i have a near on brand new clutch and fly wheel with receipts if intrested?
Old 27 July 2011, 10:38 AM
  #11  
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wotagr8bigchief
Hello mate, power wise I reckon in the region of 290-300 bhp max I was looking at your ebay item # 170668954939 would this do the trick? If so I will hit buy it now tommorow.

Cheers


That one should be okay but the slightly larger one would be better: http://www.superhids.co.uk/clutches-...ti-judder.html

Over 300bhp and you will want one of these: http://www.superhids.co.uk/clutches-...der-230mm.html

Give me a call if you need advice or want to order over the telephone: 01462 600 241.
Old 27 July 2011, 10:46 AM
  #12  
Antony@indigo-gt
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Antony@indigo-gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales
Posts: 722
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sounds like a mechanical issue, check the clutch does not need bleeding and that the bearing has engaged
Old 28 July 2011, 12:22 PM
  #13  
wotagr8bigchief
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
wotagr8bigchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: sussex
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mylilscooby
if you get stuck mate i have a near on brand new clutch and fly wheel with receipts if intrested?
Hello mate yeah I could be, what clutch and how much are we talking. Cheers
Old 28 July 2011, 12:32 PM
  #14  
wotagr8bigchief
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
wotagr8bigchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: sussex
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ive had a look at the clutch myself now and showed the guy that fitted it this thread, we have come to the conclusion that the bearing has had it. Although we did remove the clutch fork it wasnt until we had a good go at ripping the engine out with it still connected so must of ruined the bearing then. Helix do sell a replacement bearing but there is only 2-3mm of friction material left max so is it really worth it?
Old 28 July 2011, 05:01 PM
  #15  
Jimbob
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Jimbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wotagr8bigchief
Ive had a look at the clutch myself now and showed the guy that fitted it this thread, we have come to the conclusion that the bearing has had it. Although we did remove the clutch fork it wasnt until we had a good go at ripping the engine out with it still connected so must of ruined the bearing then. Helix do sell a replacement bearing but there is only 2-3mm of friction material left max so is it really worth it?
Me i`d **** a new bearing in there and then replace the clutch when it finally goes, as I`m not a fan of replacing something that works, unless I`m seriously upgrading.
Old 28 July 2011, 05:42 PM
  #16  
happydude303
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
happydude303's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: southampton
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

them helix clutchs are like the ap and they are the muts nuts of organic clutches
and are good for 450ft and the hp to go with it unlike all other organic ones
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
48
21 July 2017 09:50 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM
speedrick
Subaru Parts
0
26 September 2015 03:01 PM



Quick Reply: Helix sport clutch kit not reusable?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:26 AM.