Adam M

Hi guys,

As I always like to fiddel and waste senseless money, I am thinking about other front mounted intercooler options.

So far the one I am most impressed with is the mrt. It has led me to think that maybe I would prefer a bar and plate design btu am having trouble finding anything cheaper than the extortionate mrt price.

Does anyone have any suggestions.

Cant find any info on HKS, apexi, greddy etc. but have been looking. To my knowledge most are tube and fin anyway.

Any help would be appreciated.

IWatkins

Hi Adam,

Maybe take a look at: http://www.paceproducts.co.uk/ricc/scooby_main.htm

I've no idea if it is any good, but at least they seem to have thought about the front mounts effect on the water temps.

(Main site: http://www.paceproducts.co.uk/ )

Cheers

Ian

CraigH

I would heartily recomment the APS

Adam M

Ian, thanks but I have the pace and feel like a change.

Will give it some more time first, havent had car long enough to see what results I actually get.

Craig, nice thought but twould prefer to be a bit different. Plus, yours is tube and fin, and I want a bar and plate.

Danny Fisher

And those that know Adam, know that he is VERY DIFFERENT.

Dan

Sith

LOL @ Dan.

P.

TopCat

LOL @ Dan Big TIME!!!

Adam when you get your new FMIC will you be framing the pipes, I know you liked them....;-)

M

Adam M

Mo and danny.

dont be taling the pi55 out of me.

You wouldnt like me when I am angry.
I will hunt you down and shoot you, square in the shoulder rude boy stylee.

The chain reaction of shards of shoulder blade will explode liek shrapnel inside your torso, like splinters piercing your heart, and you will die.

Danny Fisher

And God knows when the midget will get typing lessons.

Dan

Andy Tang

iTrader: (3)

I'm more curious as to when Adam became a gangster!!

Adam M

Id rater be a midget than ascrawny runt with arms the size of long burn matches fisher man.

PS. we know you shave your head becuase you are actually ginger.

CraigH

Adam,

"You wouldn't like me when I'm angry"?

We don't like you NOW!

CraigH

Adam,

You omitted something from your midget statement. Oversized.

ps - Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing is very good.

Sith

I feel the Muppet forum is calling for this thread.

P.

Adam M

very seriously,

was a serious question which I would like an answer to.

Any ides on bar and plate alternatives?

Steve Fort

Fitted an HKS fmic 2 weeks ago to my MYOO. Was really impressed with the fit and build quality.
Quite abit of scary cutting involved but its worth it.
Car feels alot better, and i now get that funnny chattering wastegate noise aswell as the noise from the BOV. Not sure why, hope it doesn't cause the turbo any damage!! I assume that its because there is too much charge air for the BOV to dump in one go and its going back through the turbo.
Anyone experienced similar thing?

Kit cost about £1100, which i think is ok considering the quality.

BTW, it wont fit with the std airbox etc.

Hope this helps.

FORTY

Adam M

is it bar and plate or tube and fin?

steve McCulloch

Adam

What are the technical differences between the two kinds of intercooler u mention - i.e what exactly is bar and plate as against tube and fin?

Adam M

Different method of contruction, and hence different heat transfer characteristics. According to theory, tube and fin is capable of being better.

I believe bar and plate to be harder wearing, but it could just be that those I have seen are better constructed.

Waiting for a repsonse from hyperflow who supposedly sell them.

Jake

Steve,
What exactly did you have to cut was it just the bumper?

mutant_matt

Adam,

When you *actually* have your car and you *actually* drive it and you *actually* put some miles on the Intercooler you may *actually* want to keep the one you've got ?????? ( )

Matt

Steve Fort

The HKS front mount is tube and fin. I must admit that it seems fairly fragile, especially when its in such a vulnerable position to be battered with stones and small animals! I may put a wire mesh in front to protect it.

The cutting was mainly just the bumper, although you do have to cut a small strip of metal from the front valence. Its only the metal strip that the bumper sits on, so it is not visible when the bumper is back in place, and its not enough to effect the structual strength. I painted it with hammerite after cutting so that it doesnt rust.
You also have to cut the engines plastic undertrays slightly, but some people dont even bother putting them back on.

All of this cutting may sound harsh, but trust me, it isnt that scary otherwise i wouldnt have done it.

[Edited by Steve Fort - 10/26/2001 8:38:13 PM]

Steve Fort

The HKS front mount is tube and fin. I must admit that it seems fairly fragile, especially when its in such a vulnerable position to be battered with stones and small animals! I may put a wire mesh in front to protect it.

The cutting was mainly just the bumper, although you do have to cut a small strip of metal from the front valence. Its only the metal strip that the bumper sits on, so it is not visible when the bumper is back in place, and its not enough to effect the structual strength. I painted it with hammerite after cutting so that it doesnt rust.
You also have to cut the engines plastic undertrays slightly, but some people dont even bother putting them back on.

All of this cutting may sound harsh, but trust me, it isnt that scary otherwise i wouldnt have done it.


DOUBLE POST..................DOH!!!

[Edited by Steve Fort - 10/26/2001 8:39:12 PM]

JasonR

hi adam,
you could try another Australian company which is www.avoturbo.com
theres is bar and plate and quite large and well made.
JasonR

stick

STi Ver II. Trust FMIC fitted. This is of the tube and fin variety. The FMIC kit comes with all the piping necessary, just make sure you specify which model (year) WRX you have.

I had to cut the front bumper. You will also need an adequate BOV (if you haven't already done so) as I found the stock BOV just couldn't cope with the additional volume of air.

The intercooler piping goes through the stock cold airbox so a pod filter arrangement is required.

Overall impression: Good construction (everything just worked/fitted), fairly light (well, I could lift the box without too much difficulty ), minimal (if any) additional lag noticed (this is with a 2.5" catless downpipe, 3" intermediary and a perferated straight through muffler).

light12

another company in oz is hyperflow they make both t/b and b/p
http://www.hyperflow.com.au/wrxkit.htm.
but the mrt kit i have on my car is very nice with very short pipe length no cutting and no removal of fog lights

stick

That's a good point. Never considered the spotlights. I don't have them so it wasn't a concern. However I don't think the Trust kit allows enough room to run them.