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Old 29 November 2004, 06:31 PM
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Default Is an STi8 intercooler better than STi7??

Can anyone please let me know if the intercooler was uprated in an STi8 from what was previously in the STi7.

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Old 29 November 2004, 07:17 PM
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They are exactly the same unit.
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
They are exactly the same unit.
Thanks Zippy.
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Greasemonkey moment coming......

01MY (STi7 JDM only) was the same as 02MY (STi8) was the same as 03MY UK (STi9) was the same as 04MY UK (STi10) is the same as 05MY UK (STi11)

Now which do we REALLY mean??
Old 29 November 2004, 10:30 PM
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Lol at Mike, nice one

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Thanks Mike for your input - confused more than ever now...

It's in the pictures below and it's from an MY02 UK STi Type UK (Bugeye). Bob - I still take your word for it that it's better than the APS that is pictured next to it - even though the APS is a lot bigger. Basically I'm going for an uprated TMIC on a P1 and combining with STi8 scoop and waterspray - would you recommend going for this one Bob??


Old 30 November 2004, 12:24 PM
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JDM STIs (same MY) after 2002 have bigger I/C from EDM cars!
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Old 30 November 2004, 01:44 PM
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Mike: I thought they were the same? So a JDM STi7 i/c is different from UK STi7 i/c?
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Terry

Sorry, the confusion is caused by people erroneously using a number system when describing the cars. It's much easier to use the MY designation so there is no doubt.


BOB

That's the whole point of my post.

THERE WAS NO UK STI7.

It doesn't exist, it never existed, it won't ever exist.

The numbers stopped at STi6, the next one would have been STi7 for 01MY but that was JDM only so if you had to use a number system, the first non-JDM STi would have been an 8.

Sorry, it's one of my pet hates......

Mike


Greasemonkey moment is now over.
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So....all bugeye and blobeye STi i/c's are the same?

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They are getting at certain individuals with the posts and confusing you, but going back to your question they are the same, all the 01 onwards STi intercoolers are identical.

The APS one pictured is way better as it has a much thicker core than the STi version.

If you have choice get the APS version.

Zippy
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
The APS one pictured is way better as it has a much thicker core than the STi version.
If you have choice get the APS version. Zippy
Thanks for that mate. Is this your own experience?? As I have been informed by a few people in the know that the APS TMIC doesn't do a better job than the STi8 TMIC - even though it has a much larger core (I think the materials used have a lot to do with it) - this info came from their own experiences

Plus, for the improvement I'll get on my P1 with a large scoop and waterspray and remap - I think I'll keep the cost down and go the way of the STi8.

Cheers

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I would have a big long think about mapping that waterspray in Terry.
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Terry,
you got pm

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Old 01 December 2004, 07:05 PM
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Terry, my mate ran the APS version on his 'Tuned' MY01 WRX and it was quality,admittedly he had new turbo and re-map but the STi version wouldnt have been as good, the APS one has a good reputation but getting hold of them has proved hard and the price is a knee weakner.

My other friend has an STi intercooler on his MY01 and it has increased his boost from 1.2 bar to 1.3 but thats it, his car has a custom map (Ecutek) and over a few days started boosting to the higher setting.

Rich Wild runs a similair intercooler (MRO) on his very well set up classic and it too has the much thicker core over any OEM item,he chose it over a front mount, due to its cooling abilities without adding excessive lag.

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It might be thicker but the core density is no where near as good, size doesn't matter in this case, design and configuration does it. This is speaking from experience of mapping cars with a variety of top mounts APS included. It is better than a GC8 intercooler though. However its not all about the intercooler, you must fit the large scoop to go with it, air flow onto it is everything.

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Talking of scoop sizes - why did the MY03-onwards scoops have to get so much larger than the MY01-02?

From a little project I have been doing, I found that the scoop splitter from the UK MY01/02 STi is easily swallowed inside the common WRX blobeye scoop.

So I presume I can get more airflow with a blobeye WRX scoop and STi IC & air splitter (which I have modded), than the std bugeye STi IC set-up?

So just how does the bugeye STi IC get anywhere near the same airflow as the blobeye STi with its monster scoop and is it the cause of those with poor STi PPP outputs?

Nick
Old 01 December 2004, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
It might be thicker but the core density is no where near as good, size doesn't matter in this case, design and configuration does it. This is speaking from experience of mapping cars with a variety of top mounts APS included. It is better than a GC8 intercooler though. However its not all about the intercooler, you must fit the large scoop to go with it, air flow onto it is everything.

bob
Thanks Bob for putting my mind at rest regarding this.

I'll be giving you more business early next year I'm sure - and probably not for the last time...

Cheers

Terry
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Thumbs up hyprflow?

hi guys,

i have a hyperflow top mount on my sti v8 ra, its a great bit of kit, imho, much better that the aps and massivey better than std!

send me you e mail addy and i will send pics!!

cheers robin.
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