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Old 03 November 2004, 09:59 PM
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Have a STI 4 RA V-Ltd with a standard VF23 at present. Planning to get car re-mapped early next year. Don't want to go big BHP just reliable 320/330 ish.

Current mods are HKS system, filter and apexi boost controller set at 18psi.

Question is I suppose, should I go the TD05 route to acheive this or is the VF23 good enough for the job ? Would I need new headers as well? I pressume standard 440's will cope ok ?
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VF23 and 440s on OEM headers with good intercooling should do what you want.
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Originally Posted by john banks
VF23 and 440s on OEM headers with good intercooling should do what you want.
Thanks for your reply, are you saying the current set up with a re-map to optimise will do the job then ?
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With good intercooling yes. Sam Elassar got 323 BHP on SUL with VF23, FMIC, Link ECU on a MY99 UK.
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From reading many a thread on here I thought I would need more, I just want to avoid the expense of uprating injectors etc, etc. Although FMIC would not be a cheap route. Would it be possible to stay with TMIC, obviously I have a V4 STi top mount at present.
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You can put a smaller VF28 and exhaust on a MY99/00 UK and map to get 310 BHP on rollers that get book figures or lower on the standard car.

I would suggest you consider a new age STi intercooler and scoop.
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as john said, the new age intercoolers are bigger

i plan to fit one myself, although i dont want a massive ugly scoop on mine

i have a 97wrx with 440`s, full 3" decat system, K&N pannel filter, Vf23 turbo and i run mine at 1.37bar peak boost and what ever it can push out at the red line with a dawse device and its been ok for ages and ages

i have the standerd Version 3 intercooler at present
from what i can work out with sum flow chart stuff, it "should be" around 325bhp and 300lbft torque

i am not to fussed about the intercooler at present, but i will want one fitted before i change my turbo again (to either a td05 FE or a VF22/34 or similer)

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Interesting stuff, by that reckoning mine must be over 300 at present. Full 3" decat apexi induction kit and 18 psi sustained boost. Engine also has uprated interanals after a rebuild 5k ago so should also be quite strong.

Is there any point then in going to a TD05 over a VF23 for 330 bhp target ?
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i personaly wouldnt, althouh the td05`s seam to be a lot more robust and can take a lot more abuse

ihi VF 2X`s turbos seam pretty fragile IMO (ive broke a few)

im led to belive the td05 would spool a little bit later then the vf23, which wouldnt really be any help in your case if you only want 320/330 ish bhp

i would stick with what you have until it breaks, or you would like a bit more power

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