To flame or not to Flame
17 August 2004, 01:42 PM
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To flame or not to Flame
Hi there have recently finished of the de cat on my STI8 type Uk, and am getting the final remap for it on the weekend. However just wondering before i get this remap done whether i should fit a flam kit inside the exhuast as well, and then get it mapped. Anyone advise, good things about the kits, bad things, legal issues, prices etc I should be thinking about before getting this done. Thanks for help in advance.
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17 August 2004, 04:35 PM
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Think i will
Almost certain I will get one from what I have been reading they are a good laugh and a must at shows and cruises. Before anyone has a go have got a powerfull(340 bhp)scoob so think a nice flame out the back will just finish the engine and exhuast off, would be rude not to wouldn't it???
18 August 2004, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SamUK
Is that not bad for the Engine?
The flame kit uses a spark plug to ignite the unburnt fuel leaving the exhaust so I doubt there are any detrimental affects.
In fact maybe it makes up for the fact the car is a decat
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18 August 2004, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RRH
If you have de-catted it will probs flame when hot anyway- I wouldn't spend the extra money just yet.............
Not sure but i think a full de-cat and DV will do the job.
18 August 2004, 01:24 PM
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Mine popped little flames naturally...full de cat and vta dump valve,but went and fitted a flamer kit (sad i know) and it's amazing,massive flames now without having to thrash the **** off the engine 
18 August 2004, 01:31 PM
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flamer kits produce rubbish yellow rising flames, which are very obviously fake.
It is equivalent to having a speaker which makes dump valve noises when you lift off.
They are intended for kids who don't have the engines which produce real flames, so why not get your engine mapped to be rich on over run and produce proper flames with pops and bangs.
Failing that antilag or lanch control. that is far more entertaining than some lame cop out which has no real advantage and makes you look like a fraud.
It is equivalent to having a speaker which makes dump valve noises when you lift off.
They are intended for kids who don't have the engines which produce real flames, so why not get your engine mapped to be rich on over run and produce proper flames with pops and bangs.
Failing that antilag or lanch control. that is far more entertaining than some lame cop out which has no real advantage and makes you look like a fraud.
18 August 2004, 01:41 PM
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Oh dear me thinks its time to sell my Scoobs as the undesirable elements are starting to take over................ The Chav brigade kev boy racers have moved on from their Nova's and sheesh......... are getting into Scoobs................... 
Flamer Kits and Dump Valves...................... Get a life you saddo's............
Flamer Kits and Dump Valves...................... Get a life you saddo's............
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18 August 2004, 03:58 PM
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Cheers for the other but have gone ahead with getting one and have been offered a very good price on one. In my opinion, there is nothign better then hearing the roar of the scooby rally car going off down the road, and then watching the tarmac light up behind them as the back end lights up.
18 August 2004, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by STI @ 21
Cheers for the other but have gone ahead with getting one and have been offered a very good price on one. In my opinion, there is nothign better then hearing the roar of the scooby rally car going off down the road, and then watching the tarmac light up behind them as the back end lights up.
A rally car doesnt have a flamer kit.
18 August 2004, 04:25 PM
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True but with a complete de-cat it sounds like one and is the closest thing you will get to on on road version. Still don't know why people are against them on the Scoobies, if they are done right e.g. spark plug inside the exhaust not haning on for dear life then I think they look amazing and can't wait to get mine fitted. Just to annoy everyone else out there think i might put a sticker on the back above the pipe saying BEWARE I spit (NOT!!!!)
18 August 2004, 04:44 PM
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True but with a complete de-cat it sounds like one
18 August 2004, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Askew
Like what a Group N car? group A and WRC spec cars run equal lengths dont they?
How ya doin big lad?
Fangoria Oh dear me thinks its time to sell my Scoobs as the undesirable elements are starting to take over................ The Chav brigade kev boy racers have moved on from their Nova's and sheesh......... are getting into Scoobs...................
Flamer Kits and Dump Valves...................... Get a life you saddo's............Today 12:31
Duya remember all this Rich?
FPMSL it's what made me get my flame kit, the thought of winding up to$$ers like this. Oh Dear time to sell my scoob because of someone else Does Mummy have to agree first ya bloody sheep 
Anyway, Sti@21. With regards to coppers pulling you etc, you would need to be extremely unlucky or just stupid. The kit has a switch which turns the spark on and off. See a copper, pull into a petrol station, just sat in traffic, then just flick the switch and turn it off. Got a tailgater, having a blast down ya fave b-road, fancy showing off, flick the switch and enjoy.
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18 August 2004, 05:06 PM
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No idea just think the burble of a flat four decatted going off down the street is one of the best car sounds there is, and with a flame following each gear change it can't get much better. People are of course going to have their own opinions, and I can't be bothered to argue, some think the standard car is best others think it isn't, you wouldn't be modding your car if you didn't want it to be unique and your style. As far as hearign a Rally car have only heard them on TV as hadn't had the opportunity to get out and watch a rally so wouldn't know
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18 August 2004, 05:11 PM
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Hi Mikey - got your text - cant reply at the min though - will be in touch when I'm back in the UK - got WRC Germany until Monday
Had a VTA dumpvalve and a flamer kit a few years ago - realised they're a bit northern shellsuit so i got rid
each to their own I suppose
Had a VTA dumpvalve and a flamer kit a few years ago - realised they're a bit northern shellsuit so i got rid
each to their own I suppose
18 August 2004, 07:24 PM
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i have a flamer kit on my scooby.i have never had any troubles with it or the law.
you dont have to be a boy racer or a ned to have one.it can be switched off so its not always spitting flames.
i love it when a tosser comes up behind,all i do is drop a gear,give it some revs and spit a 6ft flame right in front of them,they soon dissapear.lol. they look the biz when up the country roads,who need street lights..
you dont have to be a boy racer or a ned to have one.it can be switched off so its not always spitting flames.
i love it when a tosser comes up behind,all i do is drop a gear,give it some revs and spit a 6ft flame right in front of them,they soon dissapear.lol. they look the biz when up the country roads,who need street lights..
18 August 2004, 07:57 PM
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I didnt say you did need to be a boy racer.......thats why I added the Icon to try and show I was taking the ****
Afterall why should I care............ was considering one myself.......just to annoy those that get too close (but maybe not the police!!)
Afterall why should I care............ was considering one myself.......just to annoy those that get too close (but maybe not the police!!)
You guys!!
19 August 2004, 11:02 PM
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Its all in jest.............. shoudln't take anything too seriously..........................
I think you posted your thread while I was adding a smilie to mine though!!
Now whats the next topic - should I but a shellsuit or shouldn't I
Its all in jest.............. shoudln't take anything too seriously..........................
I think you posted your thread while I was adding a smilie to mine though!!
Now whats the next topic - should I but a shellsuit or shouldn't I
20 August 2004, 12:42 PM
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Got a tailgater, having a blast down ya fave b-road, fancy showing off, flick the switch and enjoy.
unmarked police car!
