Scoobysport or Magnex backbox?
13 August 2001, 05:43 PM
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I had a Magnex on my 93WRX and was very please with it.
Got an SS on my 94UK that I got second hand.
I'll probably get scorched for this, but if I was to do it again, I'd get a Magnex as it's £100 cheaper and the SS has a slight 'fluff....fluff' drone at low revs that can be a bit annoying.
Although I beleive the SS design of the tailpipe has know been extended slightly which may be the solution to this drone.
Got an SS on my 94UK that I got second hand.
I'll probably get scorched for this, but if I was to do it again, I'd get a Magnex as it's £100 cheaper and the SS has a slight 'fluff....fluff' drone at low revs that can be a bit annoying.
Although I beleive the SS design of the tailpipe has know been extended slightly which may be the solution to this drone.
14 August 2001, 10:52 AM
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I've got a Magnex BB and it grumbles quite nicely, but isn't too harsh at high revs or on the motorway. I've recently added a de cat Magnex centre section (non resonator)and this made a big difference, even more grumbly now, it sings a sweet note!!! 
Total cost 175 quid BB and 56.50 c/p both new
Total cost 175 quid BB and 56.50 c/p both new
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14 August 2001, 05:43 PM
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I had the magnex bb and centre section with resonator box great
I just had it serviced and had emmisions test done passed flying colours, co2 limit 0.3 mine 0.01 unburnt petrol limit 200ppm mine 9 go for it!
I just had it serviced and had emmisions test done passed flying colours, co2 limit 0.3 mine 0.01 unburnt petrol limit 200ppm mine 9
go for it!
16 August 2001, 10:52 AM
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I've commented so many times on this subject, here goes again:-
I've got Magnex centre with resonator and back box on my 2000MY turbo, it's stainless, sounds great, not too max power loud, definate increase in performance, lifetime warranty, superb construction and fit and the price is unbeatable.
Go For It
glen
I've got Magnex centre with resonator and back box on my 2000MY turbo, it's stainless, sounds great, not too max power loud, definate increase in performance, lifetime warranty, superb construction and fit and the price is unbeatable.
Go For It
glen
16 August 2001, 11:07 AM
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Disco 
lol!!
We'll just grumble together Jason
agree with glen - lifetime warranty, stainless, turbo spools up sooner and definate performance difference thro' the gears
lol!!We'll just grumble together Jason
agree with glen - lifetime warranty, stainless, turbo spools up sooner and definate performance difference thro' the gears
16 August 2001, 11:52 AM
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After watching this post, it looks like my vote goes to the Magnex. Power Engineering of Uxbridge do their own at £290. But if the Magnex is £100 (ish) cheaper, sounds good, is SS, improves performance and is used and approved by you lot then all I need to know is who is able to supply me with a BB for a 94 WRX? How much will fitting cost on top?
London area please.
(Just found that PE are approved dealers, going in on Saturday to check out some prices)
Cheers guys.
Al.
[This message has been edited by Al Cook (edited 16 August 2001).]
London area please.
(Just found that PE are approved dealers, going in on Saturday to check out some prices)
Cheers guys.
Al.
[This message has been edited by Al Cook (edited 16 August 2001).]
16 August 2001, 12:53 PM
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Sounds like the magnex is very popular, is it stainless ? price is bloody resonable too! was looking at s/s an p/e, could e alot of money for nothing, maybe ill go for magnex too. do these mgx b/b and centre pipe improve performance like the others? Thanks Lee
16 August 2001, 11:04 PM
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I obtained the following performance improvements after fitting a Magnex BB, Centre Resonator Section and K&N panel filter:
before after
30-70 mph 3rd gear 6.7 6.3 seconds
50-80 4th gear 7.6 7.1
60-80 5th gear 7.9 7.3
50-80 3rd gear 5.1 4.7
30-70 through gears 5.4 5.2
Improvement is between 4 and 9%, which I thought was pretty good.
Alan
I obtained the following performance improvements after fitting a Magnex BB, Centre Resonator Section and K&N panel filter:
before after
30-70 mph 3rd gear 6.7 6.3 seconds
50-80 4th gear 7.6 7.1
60-80 5th gear 7.9 7.3
50-80 3rd gear 5.1 4.7
30-70 through gears 5.4 5.2
Improvement is between 4 and 9%, which I thought was pretty good.
Alan
17 August 2001, 12:06 AM
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I think you may be right people just don't want the Magnex oval, they all tend to want the round pipe. I think this is because it looks like the SS BB
Lee P/
I was not insinuating you were buying the exhaust to sale. I was trying to point out what good value the SS BB is even thought it cost much more.
If you cannot afford a SS BB then of course buy a Magnex after all it is quite a good replica.
My full SS system and STD air filter is knocking out 291 bhp on a UK MY00 P1 do you think this is to high I don’t about normal for this type of car.
Well thats enough fishing for one day, Bob puts rod away and stips on asbestos suit.
I think you may be right people just don't want the Magnex oval, they all tend to want the round pipe. I think this is because it looks like the SS BB
Lee P/
I was not insinuating you were buying the exhaust to sale. I was trying to point out what good value the SS BB is even thought it cost much more.
If you cannot afford a SS BB then of course buy a Magnex after all it is quite a good replica.
My full SS system and STD air filter is knocking out 291 bhp on a UK MY00 P1 do you think this is to high I don’t about normal for this type of car.
Well thats enough fishing for one day, Bob puts rod away and stips on asbestos suit.
17 August 2001, 01:04 AM
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Cheers alan! that does sound good as the price is resonable! S/S system may sell second hand well but im not buying it to sell, i may get FLAMED for this but 291 bhp with exhaust mods n filter sounds high? im sure STi didnt just chuck a exhaust on there sti 5/6 P1 to get 280bhp? am i wrong? tell if i am. my car is standard, on track icouldnt keep with scoob with full decat magnex system on in a straight line at all, and i dont mind caneing my car! its like armani jeans may sell second hand but next jeans wont, both do same job? Lee
17 August 2001, 01:12 AM
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Lemmy (alan) have you got magnex b/b and centre pipe with restr. ? have you heard one without res, and just straight through pipe? is straight through miles more noisy tha res? cheers sorry to drag this one out! Lee
17 August 2001, 09:58 AM
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I have the Magnex 6"x4" backbox mated to S/S M/S and S/S D/P.
Before I had the M/S and D/P fitted I went to a rolling road session and heard one particular full S/S system which sounded awesome. This was when I just had the Magnex backbox fitted and at that point began to wish I had got a S/S Backbox.
At a recent Subaru meet I was the first to arrive at the meet so was able to sit down and listen to the exhaust note of the cars arriving. Comparing the S/S systems to mine I did not think there was much in it. Even those with the HKS exhaust were barely more audible than the S/S. I am of course refering to these cars arriving at ~20mph. IMHO this is a good point to listen to the exhaust note as a lot of people crave that flat four rumble and when caning the car this tends to get less distinctive.
I have read previous threads and tend to agree that the loudness of the exhaust depends on the moisture that has found its way into the exhaust. On warm days my car's exhaust gets quite a few pops when trundling down a hill. On other occasions I will notice that it seems extremely quiet to the point where you would think the full standard system was in place.
Anyway I think thats enough of me rabbling on!
Damian.
Before I had the M/S and D/P fitted I went to a rolling road session and heard one particular full S/S system which sounded awesome. This was when I just had the Magnex backbox fitted and at that point began to wish I had got a S/S Backbox.
At a recent Subaru meet I was the first to arrive at the meet so was able to sit down and listen to the exhaust note of the cars arriving. Comparing the S/S systems to mine I did not think there was much in it. Even those with the HKS exhaust were barely more audible than the S/S. I am of course refering to these cars arriving at ~20mph. IMHO this is a good point to listen to the exhaust note as a lot of people crave that flat four rumble and when caning the car this tends to get less distinctive.
I have read previous threads and tend to agree that the loudness of the exhaust depends on the moisture that has found its way into the exhaust. On warm days my car's exhaust gets quite a few pops when trundling down a hill. On other occasions I will notice that it seems extremely quiet to the point where you would think the full standard system was in place.
Anyway I think thats enough of me rabbling on!
Damian.
17 August 2001, 10:37 AM
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Maybe the reason it was hard to sell was because it was an Oval - not quite so much demand perhaps (flame suit zipped right up!! )
I have a Mag BB and centre non resonator and ScoobySnack as the same but with resonator. My car is louder than his but not a great deal. I find it makes a nice note but it isn't too intrusive at high revs/speed so its quite nice really
)I have a Mag BB and centre non resonator and ScoobySnack as the same but with resonator. My car is louder than his
but not a great deal. I find it makes a nice note but it isn't too intrusive at high revs/speed so its quite nice really
17 August 2001, 12:44 PM
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Sold my 6X4 Magnex BB some time back, got £50 for it. 
Do you think anyone wanted it, could not give the thing away here in the SW.
Thanks for taking it of my hands Scoop. As I remember I had to deliver as well and that was £40 worth of fuel. So I only got a tenner for it in the end.
I could however get £200 for a SS BB anytime, says it all really.
My full SS system and STD air filter is knocking out 291 bhp on a UK MY00
Do you think anyone wanted it, could not give the thing away here in the SW. Thanks for taking it of my hands Scoop. As I remember I had to deliver as well and that was £40 worth of fuel. So I only got a tenner for it in the end.
I could however get £200 for a SS BB anytime,
says it all really. My full SS system and STD air filter is knocking out 291 bhp on a UK MY00
17 August 2001, 02:33 PM
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We meet again Scoobysnack...
I have recently purchased a Magnex BB (3 1/2 round) and a Magnex centre without resonator.
It now sounds great but without being intrusive at speed like Scoobyjawa says.
As these two cost only about £270 together I couldn't justify the extra just for a Scoobysport BB. Save some dosh and go for the Magnex.
I have recently purchased a Magnex BB (3 1/2 round) and a Magnex centre without resonator.
It now sounds great but without being intrusive at speed like Scoobyjawa says.
As these two cost only about £270 together I couldn't justify the extra just for a Scoobysport BB. Save some dosh and go for the Magnex.
17 August 2001, 03:51 PM
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hi bob i do appologise i was alittle p1s5ed last nite, i didnt realise you had a P1 so fair play to ya, no money is not the issue but dont want to just chuck it away. happy fisshing in ya P1.
17 August 2001, 05:49 PM
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Hi
Its me I’m back wake up glen4.
Exhausts I have had,
MY98 STD
MY98 SS BB
MY98 PE T75 PE centre section SS BB
MY00 STD
MY00 6X4 Oval
MY00 Hiper mid and BB
MY00 SS Downpipe Hiper Mid and BB
P1 STD
P1 SS BB
P1 full SS System.
I have had a few different systems and the best recommendation I can give anyone is go to a few meets and hear the exhausts for yourself. Don’t buy one expecting huge power increases. A good exhaust combined with Link or similar will give lots of extra power. But I would go for the exhaust that you think sound right for you. I think my exhaust is great but most would not like the continual high roar, bang and pop pop.
Its me I’m back wake up glen4.
Exhausts I have had,
MY98 STD
MY98 SS BB
MY98 PE T75 PE centre section SS BB
MY00 STD
MY00 6X4 Oval
MY00 Hiper mid and BB
MY00 SS Downpipe Hiper Mid and BB
P1 STD
P1 SS BB
P1 full SS System.
I have had a few different systems and the best recommendation I can give anyone is go to a few meets and hear the exhausts for yourself. Don’t buy one expecting huge power increases. A good exhaust combined with Link or similar will give lots of extra power. But I would go for the exhaust that you think sound right for you. I think my exhaust is great but most would not like the continual high roar, bang and pop pop.
17 August 2001, 06:26 PM
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For anyone who thinks Magnex are cheap & poor quality...
Magnex are an exhaust company.
They make exhausts for a living.
Do you think they would get it wrong?
TVR use them.
Lifetime guarantee.
306 Stainless.
(no offence to SS, also a damn good pipe by all accounts)
Bob, can you make the B'mth RR meet?
MB
Magnex are an exhaust company.
They make exhausts for a living.
Do you think they would get it wrong?
TVR use them.
Lifetime guarantee.
306 Stainless.
(no offence to SS, also a damn good pipe by all accounts)
Bob, can you make the B'mth RR meet?
MB
17 August 2001, 11:06 PM
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I have a Magnex BB (6x4 oval) and centre section with resonator on an otherwise standard MY99. The performance increase on changing the exhaust from standard was immediately noticeable (confirmed by my girlfirend). However, there wasn't much change when I added the K&N panel filter.
I was attracted to Magnex by the deep burble at idle which I heard earlier this year at Castle Combe, although these cars only had the backbox altered. I then tried John Pratchett's 4 door Scoob with Magnex BB and CS without resonator + Unichip. I was very impressed especially by the extra performance due to the Unichip. I thought it might be a bit loud on long journeys so I decided to go for the CS with resonator since I have a 5 door which tend to be more noisey. It does boom a bit at 3000 rpm (80 mph in 5th), but the V8 racing engine type howl it makes above 4000 rpm is awesome. My only disappointment is that I do not get any pops or bangs!
You are welcome to come and listen to mine if you are passing anywhere near Oxford or going to the Hampshire or the Surrey meets this weekend.
Alan
I have a Magnex BB (6x4 oval) and centre section with resonator on an otherwise standard MY99. The performance increase on changing the exhaust from standard was immediately noticeable (confirmed by my girlfirend). However, there wasn't much change when I added the K&N panel filter.
I was attracted to Magnex by the deep burble at idle which I heard earlier this year at Castle Combe, although these cars only had the backbox altered. I then tried John Pratchett's 4 door Scoob with Magnex BB and CS without resonator + Unichip. I was very impressed especially by the extra performance due to the Unichip. I thought it might be a bit loud on long journeys so I decided to go for the CS with resonator since I have a 5 door which tend to be more noisey. It does boom a bit at 3000 rpm (80 mph in 5th), but the V8 racing engine type howl it makes above 4000 rpm is awesome. My only disappointment is that I do not get any pops or bangs!
You are welcome to come and listen to mine if you are passing anywhere near Oxford or going to the Hampshire or the Surrey meets this weekend.
Alan
18 August 2001, 10:59 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by bob:
<B>Sept 15th? I'm free that day put me down for it. Could do with a holiday.[/quote]
Nice one Bob, great to have a P1 there! And yourself of course! May have a 22B and an STi 5, 4, RB5 WR - amongst others.
Can you stick a "yes" on the RR post in southern section?
Many thanks.
MB
<B>Sept 15th? I'm free that day put me down for it. Could do with a holiday.[/quote]
Nice one Bob, great to have a P1 there! And yourself of course! May have a 22B and an STi 5, 4, RB5 WR - amongst others.
Can you stick a "yes" on the RR post in southern section?
Many thanks.
MB