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Old 12 November 2002, 03:33 PM
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In another thread there was a link to the Michael South Engineering website on which I noticed the
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Anyone have any opinions about this?

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Old 12 November 2002, 03:45 PM
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Me thinks it won't take me long to knock some up on saturday at work, fancy trying some Andrew? Maybe start small and work from there.


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Old 12 November 2002, 03:58 PM
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I'll need to rig up something to measure intake temps. I was considering using a selection of spacers then you could experiment to find the optimum angle (not 90deg and just in front of the radiator thankyou)

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Old 14 November 2002, 01:11 PM
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Hmmm you saw this stuff too,
They did actually get some proper data when playing with the tilt and it was actually pretty good I think I recall an 8 C drop over stock doing laps when combined with a silicone inlet (better check that figure ). Has the side benefit of removing the necessity of a larger APS style TMIC with cast end tanks which tend to act like a Heatsink on the track.
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Old 14 November 2002, 09:20 PM
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The tilt kit only works on the pre01 wrx/sti and all GTforesters.

Spacers are 21mm& 13mm( turbo side) that also requirer longer bolts.
The rubber seals needs to be trimed 14mm at the rear and 5mm at the front blending in the sides.

happy testing.

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Old 15 November 2002, 09:59 AM
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Thanks Michael, I have to say we are a little sceptical about the gains to be made, but in the interests of science we may just try it and post the results

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Old 15 November 2002, 01:39 PM
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I saw this and it's a cheap mod to do, so why not, eh?

I reckon you can bend the near side bracket so no need for a spacer. The turbo side may need a spacer though.

Instead of trimming the rubber seal, why not fold back and staple. That way you can revert it back to normal without having to buy a new one?

BTW you may need to redo your splitters (if you have them and you should) to match the new angle.

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Old 15 November 2002, 01:52 PM
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Floyd indeed I do have a splitter and was considering doing some temp measurements to assess the effectiveness of this also.

I don't see why the splitter would need modifying as this is inside the scoop and is there to ensure that some of the airflow gets to the front half of the intercooler.

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Old 15 November 2002, 04:26 PM
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Andrew, if the i/c is angled then you would need to angle the splitter to match the vanes on the i/c, yes?

I'd want to get the best from both and then add spray.

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Old 18 November 2002, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the inspiration

I made this little mod over the weekend, looks pretty good. I've only taken it for a brief drive and couldn't feel any difference... but I've yet to set up a temp. gauge to see if it's had an effect. I suspect it would be more effective when the ambients are higher than our current 10 degrees.

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Old 19 November 2002, 12:34 PM
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Did you do any cutting Mike?

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Old 19 November 2002, 03:48 PM
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Careful Floyd the muppet collective may reject you after your visit to Drivetrain

I ended up going for a slightly greater lift at the rear about 28mm. At first I didn't bother cutting the rubber trim, I was hoping to staple it, but it creates a seal, on my MY97, around the outside of the rubber rather than the bottom edge. This means that the seal wouldn't be as tight if it was folded - so I cut it! Eight screws and the skirt came away from the bonnet which made the trimming much easier.

All of which took less than half an hour!
Old 19 November 2002, 05:07 PM
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You guys may be interested to know that my JDM STi7 comes with a tilted IC and IC splitter.Subaru must think it makes a difference(for whatever thats worth!!)
Old 19 November 2002, 06:43 PM
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Deep,

All this started because the New Age 'Prezas have a tilted I/C, which is why Michael (msgofaster) decided to try it on an OAP (Old Age Preza)

I'm still pi55ing about with temperature sensors (ambient, post filter, pre and post i/c should just about cover it )

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[Edited to ask Neno if he has any pics?]

[Edited by AndrewC - 11/19/2002 6:44:26 PM]
Old 19 November 2002, 07:34 PM
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I've lost my digi camera - that's the flip side to buying a l'espion that's smaller than a credit card

I've have another look, what would you want pictures of? The spacers for the IC would be easy but the rubber trim won't be very meaningful.

Top mod by the way, it cost me all of £1.19 ! (two new longer bolts)

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Old 19 November 2002, 08:01 PM
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Andrew C as you can see I'm on the ball as always!
Old 19 November 2002, 09:03 PM
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Errrrrr! been somewhat busy last four days at work so not had chance to make any up, so hopefully gets some knocked up next week let you know then Andrew.



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Old 24 November 2002, 02:18 PM
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Andrew spacers made




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Old 05 December 2002, 11:03 AM
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Anyone got around to measuring temps or taking pictures of the install?

Guess its no hurry as its snowing outside... Just curious :-)
Old 05 December 2002, 11:40 AM
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Hi,

Jim has made me some spacers, but I haven't had the time to fit any temperature sensors to my car yet.

I'm still doing the D for Mrs C

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Old 28 January 2003, 10:03 AM
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Any news on this? This seems like worthwhile mod, if it actually helps cooling.
Old 23 February 2003, 07:57 AM
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The gains are very noticeable if you run more boost, on my sti i run 19 psi and it made a sh*t load, it also gives the air entry to the throttle body and better approach angle as the plenum is down from the throttle body. STD cars and STD boost you would be flat out to feel it.

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