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Old 15 September 2013, 06:46 PM
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Default LED tv's, is that it then.

After plasma and LCD, have we finally settled on led. Is that it then. Can I now replace my beloved CRT with something that won't be out of date by next summer.
Old 15 September 2013, 06:47 PM
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OLED TV's are next.
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I reckon 4-D TV is already made; waiting to be unveiled.

It may already be in the market but as they don't advertise it during Xfactor intervals, I can't be sure.
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Originally Posted by stilover
OLED TV's are next.
Been around for a few years, but the japs are sitting on the technology while they plunder the LED market a bit more.
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Saw a 80" curved OLED in John Lewis Kingston at the weekend, £35k.
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Stick with the crt, they're bound to come back into fashion
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Originally Posted by paulr
After plasma and LCD, have we finally settled on led. Is that it then. Can I now replace my beloved CRT with something that won't be out of date by next summer.

Well there are two types of LED, well, three of you include OLED

Mass market is pushing edge lit LED TVs because sadly manufacturers thinks its better to make ultra thin TVs with poorer picture quality over ones with a better picture that maybe an inch thicker.

Edge lit IMO were and still are crap and that is what you'll likely get.
Full array backlit combined with localised dimming is the best

Unfortunately they are more expensive to make thin and so less profitable, so what you get in Currys is ****-poor edge lit LEDs (OK slight exaggeration..it will be better than your CRT )

So IMO if good picture quality is what you are after wait for OLED or get a Plasma.


PS. Current LED TVs are still LCD technology, the only thing that has changed is the backlight (just incase anyone didn't know yet )

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Old 15 September 2013, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Well there are two types of LED, well, three of you include OLED

Mass market is pushing edge lit LED TVs because sadly manufacturers thinks its better to make ultra thin TVs with poorer picture quality over ones with a better picture that maybe an inch thicker.

Edge lit IMO were and still are crap and that is what you'll likely get.
Full array backlit combined with localised dimming is the best

Unfortunately they are more expensive to make thin and so less profitable, so what you get in Currys is ****-poor edge lit LEDs

So IMO if good picture quality is what you are after wait for OLED or get a Plasma.
This^ is a very helpful post.

I've had a Plasma for a bit now, and would have liked to change it for LED. But I'll leave it now. I can't afford OLED nor do I actually need to change or have a new TV. I'll stick with my 42" Plasma. There's nothing wrong with it.
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Ain't broke don't fix

Unless you do happen to see a TV with a picture better than yours, stick with what you have.

I like my blacks to be black and uniform, not 50 shades of grey. Admittedly my Plasma does have floating black levels, but at least its uniform and can be adjusted to remove it. The only edge lit LED TVs capeable of nearly matching it are very expensive....as expensive as a new plasma.

OLED removes all the issues associated with backlighting. Its the way forward and will eventually replace both Plasma and Conventional LED lit LCD TVs.
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In my opinion, nothing beats Plasma for picture quality.
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I've got one of those 1080p 52" Panasonic Viera 600Hz things, got it for a song about four years ago and I'm still not convinced there is much better available. It's amazing for gaming.

Surely you could pick one up for less than £500 now as everyone is so keen on the LED TVs?
Old 16 September 2013, 08:26 AM
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i replaced my old sony with a 40 inch led 3d smart tv from samsung.

cant fault it but im not a tv geek.
Old 16 September 2013, 08:33 AM
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I have 2 42 Panasonic plasmas and I think the picture is great, I used to work in comet and the concesus was above 42 plasma is the best.... For now
Old 16 September 2013, 08:49 AM
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Plasma and LCD (With LED Backlighting) and OLED (Needs no back light source as the LEDs now do this) are the 3 to look out for. But the big thing now emerging is the new HD sets that supersede 1080P HD called 4K. Basically 4 x 1080P. 3D is being phased out as it wasn't big enough on the uptake.
In about 7 years time 4K will be outdated by 8K sets. So basically if you aren't fussed about 4K (Still quite expensive at the moment and you will need a set that's 50" plus), then have a look at the 1080P sets out there. Take into account the type of room you have, so a darker room then a Plasma set will be good. I own both a LED backlit and Plasma sets. The latter being in a darker room, and is very good.
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in regard to 3d, i think samsung now just include it as a feature in some smart tvs rather than call them 3d tvs, im quite impressed with it really.
its nice to have the feature.
Old 16 September 2013, 09:01 AM
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Haven't seen OLED but main viewing TV in our house is Plasma and the next TV will also be Plasma. Just don't like LED. We have a Panny LED TV in the Kitchen and although I think it is sharper than the Plasma for films I prefer Plasma.

As for CRT, my mum has our old Sony WEGA and I'm not convinced new TVs - even HD - look as good. Its like watching our Plasma on a HD channel IMO.
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I can see 4K TV's becoming more sensibly priced by next year.
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If you read the reviews and compare them against TV's you have seen you will find the right one for you. I ended up with a LCD with LED Backlight and Local Dimming, but the biggest problem is the "engines" and "enhancements" they add. If you cannot remove them then you cannot see the true TV, then add them back in to see if they improve the quality of viewing. I have stuck with Sony as their Triluminos and X_reality Pro do improve our viewing. We just got 3D because it was there !
Old 16 September 2013, 12:12 PM
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Panasonic TX-P50X60B 50-inch Freeview HD Ready Plasma TV (New for 2013): Amazon.co.uk: TV Panasonic TX-P50X60B 50-inch Freeview HD Ready Plasma TV (New for 2013): Amazon.co.uk: TV

50 inch plasma £400.
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720p ugh
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Not ideal on a 50 inch screen
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I have had a 65" JVC HD ILA 1080p rear-projection TV for about 5 years now.

Paid £2800 then, was told ages ago that you can get one for about £1000, so you may be able to get one even cheaper now, but did a quick check on google, & couldn't confirm this.

Anyway, unbelievable TV, especially on a Friday night with a few drinks & the latest movies.

Completely gave up going to the cinema because what I had at home was better.

Also, I am not into football, but would be absolutelty awesome for that, & is absolutely mindblowing for the playstation 3.

Only downside is that you have to replace the lamp in it every 2-3 years, (costs about £80-£90 now, but when it is replaced, it is like you are watching a brand new TV again.
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The CRT has died.
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Goodbye Plasma

Panasonic have announced all production on there plasma panels will cease this December


Dont' know who else produces them now

Mart
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We had a 40" Toshiba LED set a couple of years back and thought it was great. Then my Stepson's CRT set died so we gave it to him.

We tried a 46" version of the same LED set and it was rubbish, so we bought a 50" Panasonic plasma instead (top of the range at the time) which was, and still is, astonishing.
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You would imagine someone somewhere for whatever money would still produce crt tv's

Still the best picture
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Originally Posted by mart360
Goodbye Plasma

Panasonic have announced all production on there plasma panels will cease this December


Dont' know who else produces them now

Mart
And to think they had the 'Kuro' patents from Pioneer as well. What a shame, they were excellent TV's IMO.

Just goes to show that if something is classed as new/better/ground-breaking (delete as appropriate!), it doesn't necessarily mean it's better than the "other" technology. If and when the marketing departments latch onto something and can sell it en-mass with better profits then that's the way the market will go.
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Originally Posted by mart360
Goodbye Plasma

Panasonic have announced all production on there plasma panels will cease this December


Dont' know who else produces them now

Mart

Tragic IMHO

Far too soon, but I can see why: Edge-lit LED is soooo much cheaper to make and far more profitable as so many people are duped by them. So economically plasmas are always on the back foot.

Matrix/array backlit LEDs (with intelligent local dimming) are the only comparable LED TV set and they are also much more expensive to make....thats why everyone stopped making them too, so now there is no real mainstream alternative.

....we need OLED to go mainstream ASAP and hopefully my plasmas survive until then.

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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Saw a 80" curved OLED in John Lewis Kingston at the weekend, £35k.

Yes I had a look at that as well.

Very very nice
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still have a kuro, if I needed to buy again I would try and get a kuro second hand.


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