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19 June 2013, 01:28 PM
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Pretty idiotic fanboyism is abundant at the moment. The consoles are not out yet!!!! The propaganda has begun and people are choosing sides and making decisions based upon marketing campaigns, not necessarily fact. I always buy all the main consoles anyway to use the beneficial features of each.
This **** cracks me up. Not quite at the daft levels that Android and Apple OS get to but I'm sure there is time for that...
This **** cracks me up. Not quite at the daft levels that Android and Apple OS get to but I'm sure there is time for that...
19 June 2013, 08:09 PM
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Your always going to get fanboys of any two things that compete against each other,but didn't X-box1 dig a grave for themselves
I have been following These two consoles very closely and Microsoft have forgotten the hard core gamer and have gone in to the next gen fight with one simple mission titled (how to make a big fat profit)but this war goes to ps4 hands down.SJ.
I have been following These two consoles very closely and Microsoft have forgotten the hard core gamer and have gone in to the next gen fight with one simple mission titled (how to make a big fat profit)but this war goes to ps4 hands down.SJ.
19 June 2013, 09:47 PM
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19 June 2013, 10:21 PM
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Microsoft's next game console, the Xbox One, is perhaps best known for its complex used game system and once-per-24-hour online check-in requirement. Today, Microsoft is rolling back those policies, and the company took to its Xbox blog to explain. "I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360," Xbox head Don Mattrick writes. He then states:
"An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360."
Mattrick further explains that this is a direct response to gamer outcry. "Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One," he says. Further, he confirms that Xbox One games will be region-free, and that disc-based games will have to be kept in the disc tray rather than ripped to the console and played digitally (a previously touted Xbox One feature).
Though the One's down a couple features -- Mattrick specifically says, "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One" -- it sounds like gamers won this round
"An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360."
Mattrick further explains that this is a direct response to gamer outcry. "Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One," he says. Further, he confirms that Xbox One games will be region-free, and that disc-based games will have to be kept in the disc tray rather than ripped to the console and played digitally (a previously touted Xbox One feature).
Though the One's down a couple features -- Mattrick specifically says, "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One" -- it sounds like gamers won this round
20 June 2013, 12:29 AM
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Meant specifically on here. I used to have similar daft slanging matches back with Sega Vs Nintendo and Atari Vs Amiga.
20 June 2013, 12:36 AM
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Your always going to get fanboys of any two things that compete against each other,but didn't X-box1 dig a grave for themselvesI have been following These two consoles very closely and Microsoft have forgotten the hard core gamer and have gone in to the next gen fight with one simple mission titled (how to make a big fat profit)but this war goes to ps4 hands down.SJ.
I have been following These two consoles very closely and Microsoft have forgotten the hard core gamer and have gone in to the next gen fight with one simple mission titled (how to make a big fat profit)but this war goes to ps4 hands down.SJ.
20 June 2013, 05:01 AM
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Microsoft's next game console, the Xbox One, is perhaps best known for its complex used game system and once-per-24-hour online check-in requirement. Today, Microsoft is rolling back those policies, and the company took to its Xbox blog to explain. "I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360," Xbox head Don Mattrick writes. He then states:
"An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360."
Mattrick further explains that this is a direct response to gamer outcry. "Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One," he says. Further, he confirms that Xbox One games will be region-free, and that disc-based games will have to be kept in the disc tray rather than ripped to the console and played digitally (a previously touted Xbox One feature).
Though the One's down a couple features -- Mattrick specifically says, "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One" -- it sounds like gamers won this round
Sounds promising then... if it's true.
But it shouldn't of took a mass revolt from the gamers Microsoft will just find another way to make you pay as he said in his statement (gamers won this round!)how much rounds are there?SJ.
Microsoft's next game console, the Xbox One, is perhaps best known for its complex used game system and once-per-24-hour online check-in requirement. Today, Microsoft is rolling back those policies, and the company took to its Xbox blog to explain. "I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360," Xbox head Don Mattrick writes. He then states:
"An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360."
Mattrick further explains that this is a direct response to gamer outcry. "Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One," he says. Further, he confirms that Xbox One games will be region-free, and that disc-based games will have to be kept in the disc tray rather than ripped to the console and played digitally (a previously touted Xbox One feature).
Though the One's down a couple features -- Mattrick specifically says, "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One" -- it sounds like gamers won this round
Sounds promising then... if it's true.
But it shouldn't of took a mass revolt from the gamers Microsoft will just find another way to make you pay as he said in his statement (gamers won this round!)how much rounds are there?SJ.
20 June 2013, 06:34 AM
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those things have never bothered me , what does worry me is the system`s power compared to the ps4 and the over emphasis on "the cloud"
do you reckon bill had got on the phone btw
do you reckon bill had got on the phone btw
20 June 2013, 08:37 AM
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Maybe it is a reality check for Microsoft, who are relatively new to the consumer space, to have to listen to the demands of consumers a bit more, certainly than they do in the corporate space
20 June 2013, 09:56 AM
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I never thought I'd see the day when I'd regard Sony as the 'good guys' - remember the whole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal - but here they've actually done something to improve things for the consumer and they deserve some credit for it.
20 June 2013, 11:17 AM
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They were never going to put all those restrictions on in the first place, bad press = attention seeking, they've just changed everyone's minds about not buying the console.I'd call it smart advertising.This will probably generate more xbox virgins (new first time buyers) as all the potential buyers/users will now think that Microsoft are going to listen to the user rather than run deaf with their $$$$$$$$$$ grabbing ideas, fact is, once you've bought the console it's yours, and they can add any restrictions they want when they release any future software updates.
20 June 2013, 01:19 PM
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They were never going to put all those restrictions on in the first place, bad press = attention seeking, they've just changed everyone's minds about not buying the console.I'd call it smart advertising.This will probably generate more xbox virgins (new first time buyers) as all the potential buyers/users will now think that Microsoft are going to listen to the user rather than run deaf with their $$$$$$$$$$ grabbing ideas, fact is, once you've bought the console it's yours, and they can add any restrictions they want when they release any future software updates.
20 June 2013, 01:54 PM
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What I don't understand the obsession of integrating everything into one box, it's just more things to go wrong with one device. I suppose that's the same for everything ie. iPhones (no I don't own one), cars etc
I really don't see what is wrong with making a games console and making the best games console available that does one thing and does it exceptionally well - process game data and play games, surely it's better create a product to do it's function excellently rather than create something that is mediocre at best because it's abilities have to used to do other things too?
I really don't see what is wrong with making a games console and making the best games console available that does one thing and does it exceptionally well - process game data and play games, surely it's better create a product to do it's function excellently rather than create something that is mediocre at best because it's abilities have to used to do other things too?
20 June 2013, 05:36 PM
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They were never going to put all those restrictions on in the first place, bad press = attention seeking, they've just changed everyone's minds about not buying the console.I'd call it smart advertising.This will probably generate more xbox virgins (new first time buyers) as all the potential buyers/users will now think that Microsoft are going to listen to the user rather than run deaf with their $$$$$$$$$$ grabbing ideas, fact is, once you've bought the console it's yours, and they can add any restrictions they want when they release any future software updates.
The restrictions seemed like a gormless move by MS handing the advantage to Sony BUT then we heard about cloud based gaming/steam etc.. and they started to make a bit more sense; like MS was just taking difficult steps in planning for the future (not that this would have eased the pain in the short term) Sony would eventually have to go down that (or a similar) route too, or fall behind! Maybe they just didn't want to take the heat and be the Guinea pig for such a move in the short term and watch Sony gain an upper hand they might never be able to claw back. If so, gamers may have just shot themselves in the foot in terms of the development of gaming.
OR
Maybe it was a stroke of genius/madness from the marketing folks: we're all immune to technical wizardry these days (and it's not like either console was going to be a donkey), but everyone loves a bit of aggro and to see the common man making a large nasty corporation eat humble pie. They may have contrived a situation that culminated in MS having to very publicly say: "Ok, you've spoken - we listened" To the layperson it's a victory and might make them more well disposed towards Microsoft as the company that listens to its customers. Those who claim they only backed down because of the risk of getting spanked in the sales make a moot point: They're selling stuff; everything they do is based on what is likely to shift more merchandise - they ain't doing anything out of the goodness of their hearts!
It's also strange that things that seemed integral to the way a console functioned could just be changed at the drop of a hat not 6 months before the hardware is out ..... Maybe they were never serious about the restrictions after all It's risky though: for some people the damage may have already been done and the geeky fanboy mentality is such that once they've chosen a side the opposition could offer their product for free with a side of Kelly Brook's **** and they'd still call it sh*t!
Bottom line is that the Xbox is still £80 dearer ..... and, as you said, they can always add those restrictions in the future. Now they've opened Pandora's box, will this be the issue that costs MS dearly?
Will be interesting to see how this pans out!
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20 June 2013, 05:44 PM
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quite the opposite effect
Microsoft’s ambiguous, stingy and questionable Xbox One DRM policy was dramatically ditched by the Redmond company after a backlash from bemused gamers, and that decision looks to be paying dividends already, with Xbox One pre-orders having surged ahead of the PlayStation 4 in the UK, according to Amazon. Don Mattrick piped up a short while ago to declare that the online checks on games and the policies concerning used games had been completely dropped, and since then, it would seem the gaming community sees the forthcoming Microsoft console as a much more palatable acquisition.
For a while, it did appear as though the software maker was giving an abject sermon in how not to tick off the gaming community. Having established an advantage with the Xbox 360 over its main rival, the PlayStation 3, it seemed that rather than try and consolidate that lead, Microsoft was hell-bent on shooting itself in the foot at every opportunity.
Sony, meanwhile, has naturally been cashing in, noting just last week that there would be no such restrictions. There has been mass uncertainty with regards to the Xbox One and used games allied to the supposed online checks on titles, which combined, were gradually pushing the gaming world into an all-out ****storm. But with Mattrick having now brought calm to proceedings just in the nick of time, it looks as though the gaming world has responded positively.
As noted by Amazon UK, pre-orders of the Xbox One have now leapfrogged those of the PlayStation 4, and after a nervy, uncertain launch, it looks as though Microsoft is finally getting its act together
For a while, it did appear as though the software maker was giving an abject sermon in how not to tick off the gaming community. Having established an advantage with the Xbox 360 over its main rival, the PlayStation 3, it seemed that rather than try and consolidate that lead, Microsoft was hell-bent on shooting itself in the foot at every opportunity.
Sony, meanwhile, has naturally been cashing in, noting just last week that there would be no such restrictions. There has been mass uncertainty with regards to the Xbox One and used games allied to the supposed online checks on titles, which combined, were gradually pushing the gaming world into an all-out ****storm. But with Mattrick having now brought calm to proceedings just in the nick of time, it looks as though the gaming world has responded positively.
As noted by Amazon UK, pre-orders of the Xbox One have now leapfrogged those of the PlayStation 4, and after a nervy, uncertain launch, it looks as though Microsoft is finally getting its act together
