Rasher

anyone know why this has been phased out??

Iain Young

Cost saving (reducing the manufacturing price per console).

PeteBrant

Rumours abound that it is going to be replaced with a 80GB version in the summer.

Im just pleased I got a 60GB version when I did

Iain Young

Yep. It was the removal of the built in ps2 hardware and additional ports that are (allegedly) reducing the manufacturing costs...

The 80gb version seems a bit odd to me. If you are going to release a larger capacity version why not put a decent size in like 160gb or something? HD space is cheap these days....

spectrum48k

yep, it "only" costs $400 to make now (!)

GaryK

Agreed Iain, what with the freeview tuner they are bringing out this year so you can use it as a PVR its not much use with anything less than 160Gigs.

Rasher

so is this 80GB a definite for the summer?? Is the 40 GB still worth buying??

Funkii Munkii

If you want card readers, 4 usb ports, SACD capability and PS2 BC then yes you will want the 60GB, I'm led to believe the 80gb version will not have PS2BC.

For me SACD and BC was important so it had to be 60gb, they're still doing well on e-bay +£400, im suprised as I though ebay had been flooded and they would soon drop off in price, obviously not yet. Check out AVforums there's always someone listing where you can still get them on there, although they don't appear as often as they did, Game hadsome last week all gone now.

Personally very happy with my 60gb, a quality piece of kit, can't imagine the 40gb would be any different other than whats listed aboved.

PeteBrant

Well, it is really. I mean Sky+ is fine with 60GB

Aside from that, you can drop any HDD in there.

Rasher

so a 40GB is ok as I am going to buy one today, from game. What do I need to ensure tat I can get it up and running. There seem to be a few bundles on offer, do I need any extra cables etc as I dont want to get home to find I need something extra.

It is either this on an X Box elite, not sure which really any ideas??

Iain Young

I find the 60gb of sky+ quite limiting, and being able to drop a different drive in there is a completely different issue to selling it with one in the first place (most people buying a console will struggle to work out which way up to put the disc in, let alone put in a different hard drive).

Still seems an odd decision to me...

Iain Young

Both are very where power / graphics / sound are concerned.

The elite has better games, (and a lot of them), a bigger hard drive, and arguably a better online service. However it is noisier than the PS3, has no built in blu-ray or wifi, and there is a question mark over the reliability.


The PS3 is much quieter, has blu-ray and wifi etc, but currently has very few games worth playing.

Depends what you are after really

Rasher

games really, has the X Box not overcome these reliability problems???

Rasher

will there be more games coming out for the PS3 though in the future??

PeteBrant

If you are hooking it up to an LCD/Plasma you'll want an HDMI cable (assuming it has HDMI)

PeteBrant

Of course. The situation is getting better all the time. There's still games to play on PS3, some of them very very good - Just not as many as 360. This year will start to see a real ramping up of PS3 support though.

Dream Weaver

People say this a lot, but I have both consoles and have yet to see this huge list of extra games for the 360.

Only 2 I can think of is Halo 3 (crap) and Forza 2 (over rated, managed about 3 hours so far).

What else is there that I can buy for the 360 and is excellent?

Rasher

so which one is best or is that a personal preference thing??

PeteBrant

It;s a personal pefereance thing - there is no "best"

Rasher

so I dont need an HDMI cable if it is to be plugged into a 'normal TV'??

PeteBrant

Correct - You might want to invest in an RGB SCART rather than relying on the supplied composite SCART though.

Dream Weaver

Rasher, I just plugged my PS3 in straight out the box using the VGA cables (as my TV scarts are a bit worn).

You just need the unit and a game, same with Xbox.

Both consoles are as good as each other, but with the 60gb PS3 you get onboard WiFi which is brilliant compared to the rip-off £60 adapter for the 360.

You also get the BluRay player which was a real plus for me as I'm about to buy a HDTV. Plus, I'm always expecting my 360 to blow up and pack in at any minute.

PeteBrant

Those cables out of the box aren't VGA - They are composite - I.e. Picture and left/right audio..

If that how you have your PS3 hooked up now, when you get your HDTV sorted under HDMI, you are going to faint when you see it

Dream Weaver

I know, just need to finish off my home cinema plans now then I can get it all ordered and fitted

Rasher

ok thanks, but at the mo, the cables inthe box will work on a conventional TV?

Dream Weaver

Yep, should be OK for either console.

Rasher

thanks mate

Funkii Munkii

The bigger the better I would say, I run mine off a 26" in the bedroom, it looks lovely, but when I tried it out on my bros-in-law's 42" I really noticed a difference it looked a bir crisper.

Still waiting for my 8 yr old Panasonic 36" CRT to blow up, which probably wont happen for a while yet , I just can't bring myself to bin something I paid £2k for all those years ago when it works perfectly well, the PS3 doesn't look at all bad on it to be fair.

Just rented a Blu Ray DVD to see how that goes, see if "they're all that" going to compare on a cheapo sony dvd player thru the HD screen and then on the PS3, I alway build my hopes up with these things and then feel a little short changed, a bit like going from Sky analogue to Sky Dig, hopefully it'll be better than that !

Rasher

just bought a PS3, how easy is it to set the controls up to be wireless in idiot form please??

Got Assasins with it crikey the picture qquality is shi*e on a normal telly is there any way of making it better ???

gotmashed

Go on to the ps3 menu and play with the display settings. I use mine 50% of the time on a 15 year old 26in thing picture is fine a bit better than the old xbox. The other 50% is played on a 56in hdtv and that is when the misses isnt moaning that is.