StickyMicky

got a ATI radeon 9200SE from a computer fair for £39
all sealedup and ready to go

specs


System Requirements
Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD® K6/Duron™/Athlon®/Athlon XP® or compatible with AGP 2X (3.3V), 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (2X/4X/8X).
64MB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Graphics technology
RADEON™9200SE, technology
Memory configuration
128MB of DDR memory

Operating system support
Windows® XP
Windows® 2000
Windows® Me
Windows® 98/98SE
Monitor support
CRT monitor: 15-pin VGA connector

RADEON™ 9200SE - VGA/RCA/S-video
RADEON™ 9200SE - DVI/RCA/S-video
Display support
Register compatible with VGA
Supports VESA PnP compatible displays
BIOS compatible with VESA for super VGA
DDC1/2b/2b+ monitor support
VESA Display Power Management Support
Separate horizontal and vertical synchronization at TTL levels
Features
CHARISMA ENGINE™ II
Four parallel rendering pipelines process up to 1.1 billion pixels per second
High performance 2nd generation hardware transform & lighting engine
Advanced vertex shader support for the latest programmable effects
SMARTSHADER™ technology

Full support for DirectX ® 8.1 programmable pixel and vertex shaders in hardware
1.4 pixel shaders support up to 22 instructions and up to 6 textures per rendering pass
1.1 vertex shaders support vertex programs up to 128 instructions
Complete feature set also supported in OpenGL ® via extensions
Programmable shaders provide enhanced 3D effects in over 100 existing and upcoming game titles

SMOOTHVISION™
Image quality enhancement features for Direct3D™ and OpenGL ® applications
Programmable full-scene anti-aliasing supports 2 to 6 samples with user selectable performance and quality modes
Advanced anisotropic filtering supports 2 to 16 samples for high quality texture rendering with minimal performance impact

HYPER Z™ II
Lossless Z-Buffer Compression and Fast Z-Buffer Clear reduce memory bandwidth by up to 25%
VIDEO FEATURES
FULLSTREAM™ Hardware accelerated de-blocking of Internet video streams
VIDEO IMMERSION™ II delivers industry-leading DVD playback
Integrated MPEG-2 decode including iDCT and motion compensation for top quality DVD with lowest CPU usage
Unique Adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing feature combines the best elements of the "bob" and "add-field" (weave) techniques
YUV to RGB color space conversion
Back-end scaler delivers top quality playback
4-tap horizontal and vertical filtering
Upscaling and downscaling
Filtered display of images up to 1920 pixels wide
Hardware mirroring for flipping video images in video conferencing systems
Supports 8-bit alpha blending and video keying for effective overlay of video and graphics

DISPLAY FEATURES
Dual integrated display controllers to drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions and refresh rates
HYDRAVISION™ software provides complete control over multi-display configurations with a user-friendly interface
400MHz Dual integrated DACs with 10-bit per channel palette
Integrated DVI-compliant 165MHz TMDS transmitter
Integrated TV-Out support up to 1024x768 resolution

GENERAL FEATURES
Comprehensive 4X and 8X AGP support
Windows® Logo Program compliant
Optimized for Pentium ® 4 SSE2 and AMD Athlon™ 3Dnow! processor instructions
Highly optimized 128-bit 2D engine with support for new Windows® XP GDI extensions
Warranty
3-year limited warranty
2D display modes:
Resolutions, colors and maximum refresh rates (Hz) in 256, 65K or 16.7M colors:
Monitor Resolution Hz
640x480 200
800x600 200
1024x768 200
1152x864 200
1280x1024 160
1600x1200 120
1920x1080* 16:9 120
1920x1200 100
1920x1440 90
2048x1536 85
*16:9 aspect ratio monitors are supported on 1920x1080 and 848x480 on Microsoft® Windows® XP, Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and Microsoft® Windows® Me. The complete list of resolutions depends on the driver version and operating system. NOTE: resolutions are limited by the performance of the attached monitor. DVI-I monitors will be limited to 1600x1200.
Maximum 3D resolutions:


Colors Monitor Resolution
65K colors 2048x1536
16.7M colors 2048x1536


seams pretty good
but it wont work in my pc!!
i ripped out my old 32mb nvidia card and installed the new one

i keep getting a "video card not found or video card bad memory" error when booting up
motherboard is jetaway 663as pro model and supports AGP 1x 2x 4x so that shouldnt be a problem

my dads just bought a new 2gig machine, i took it apart and tried the card in his and it was fine, i tried his nidia fx5200 multimedia thing in mine and that worked fine as well

any ideas?

16vmarc

Dont have a clue but have you tried it back in yours since?!

StickyMicky

yup no joy


i have just updated my bios with a flash and it did nothing except make it more unstable, random freezes and stuff

"underclocked" it down to 1.25ghz to keep it stable so im worse off lol

help!

jimbrit

Make sure you have uninstalled and old nvidia drivers

StickyMicky

but would that not cause problems after windows has loaded?

it wont even boot up to the bios screen!
its shut down asap!
edited to add
also my dads pc had no problems booting up with the card fitted and his is nvidia

[Edited by StickyMicky - 2/1/2004 6:14:19 PM]

R1916v

Remove the nvidia drivers, find somethign called det destroyer or something (driver killing software).

When windows boots with the new card itll just come up in standard vga mode, ie windows can se the new card etc so it can display to your monitor, but it wont know what it is so wil lbe displaying at some stupidly low res and quality.

Then install vid card drivers.

StickyMicky

no you havent quite grasped it

it does not boot up, nothing
na da
mot a sausage
there would be no time for any drivers to load, it doesnt do anything except beep from the speakers, which means the card is no good

its the very 1st thing it does
1 beep means all is well and it will then goto the bios screens before booting up, this wont even goto the bios screens

sc00by-d00by

What are your CPU/PCI bus frequencies set to?

Mick

iTrader: (1)

I have had similar probs with a graphics card. A 16 MB SiS 305 would not boot at all on my old mobo, bought a new card.
Later building another PC tried graphics card again, worked for a bit then failed. Put it in new PC and works fine ...well as fine as a 16 MB SiS 305 would ever work!!! LOL

Mick (Not-sticky )

sc00by-d00by

I would guess its either down to AGP frequency (which is governed generally by either a mobo jumper or a bios setting) See if you can lock your PCI/AGP bus frequency. Its either that or AGP voltage.

Try comparing the cards' requirements to your motherboards support of those requirements.

Otherwise theres plenty of handy tips over at http://www.ocforums.com

R1916v

what power psu do you have?

Sith

Some of the Radeons require a Molex conn to be plugged into work as they draw more power.
Have you checked for this?

StickyMicky

the molex connection shouldnt apply is it worked fine in my dads machine!

should the pci bus stuff apply when its an agp card?
i have been thinking that my motherboard is simply to crap to handle it, although it shouldnt be the case (card should be agp backwards compatible)

power supply is a brand new 300watt unit i bought from pc world 1 month ago

StickyMicky

ill check the pci stuff now

StickyMicky

ok i locked the mobo agp bus thing to 4X and tried it again, no joy

changed a few things like the agp aperture size from 32mb to 128mb, no joy

this is really pissing me off, the problem i have as well, is that the standerd monitor port is blanked off with my mobo, so i have to keep taking it apart and re installing the 32mb vvidia card to adjust the bios and then take it all back apart to swap it over etc etc etc