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Old 23 November 2002, 09:19 AM
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Does anyone know how to put my hd into one as it is split into 3 seperate drives and i keep getting told my main drive is full while the other two have sod all in them.

Thanks Paul
Old 23 November 2002, 09:30 AM
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Partition Magic is one of the easiest apps from my experience.
Old 23 November 2002, 10:35 AM
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Paul you will have to run FDisk and format your drive. Obviously, in doing this you will lose everything that is on there unless you back up onto CD
Old 23 November 2002, 10:47 AM
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That's why I recommended Partition Magic.
Old 23 November 2002, 10:49 AM
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Im 100% with FDisk, PM 100% ****s up with me everytime.

always crashes then renders the drive unbootable.

Didnt read the question hehehe


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[Edited by super_si - 11/23/2002 11:06:54 AM]
Old 23 November 2002, 11:01 AM
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1. Boot up using boot disk
2. Choose FDisk
3. Delete all existing partitions
4. Create Primary Partition (Whole of H/D)
5. Set active
6. Format your drive
7. Re-install your OS

As I said earlier, You will lose all unless you back up. Partition Magic is easy, however, you can get more problems using that than you will using Fdisk
Old 23 November 2002, 11:07 AM
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I'm with BuRR party magic every time, version 7 or 8.

Fdisk....let me guess, you 2 both MSCE's

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Old 23 November 2002, 11:07 AM
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bit of a dilema, you'll have to back up everything like Taff say's you lose it all.

Formats not nesscessary though, OS install will do it for you

Si

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Old 23 November 2002, 11:09 AM
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Command line's always better You controll what happens and dont rely on OS platform software
Old 23 November 2002, 11:18 AM
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Its a lot of arsing around though, for something that can be sorted in minutes with PM7 or 8
Old 23 November 2002, 11:19 AM
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Also, if you're prepared to format and reinstall, who gives a flying monkey's **** if Partition Magic does knacker your OS?

You can try it for nothing?
Old 23 November 2002, 11:20 AM
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i used V.7 and 5, setting up linux partitions and resizing, both crashed and killed XP and 2000! and i cant see it being my fault either!!

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Old 23 November 2002, 08:08 PM
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I've used version 7 & 8, 8 having just come out obviously, repartitioned 2 servers last week no probs!!
never had a problem with this type of software, remember to do a chkdsk first anyway on ntfs before you partition, that always helps on ****ty old os's

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Old 23 November 2002, 08:24 PM
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Never had a problem with partition magic before. I've used it for several years now. (Many versions used as well, but not the latest)

I would say that's the way to go if you want to change things around.
Old 23 November 2002, 09:44 PM
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Paul, if u dont want to install your OS & unsure of effects of
PM, why dont u have a look at whats taking all your room up on the current C: drive & move it to D or E. Uninstall/reinstall apps if necessary.

I'd go with PM as well.No point in reinstalling the OS if u dont have to.
Old 23 November 2002, 11:48 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions,

I will try taffs method as it doesn't bother me formatting and reinstalling although my system has been fine for the last year and you never know after a reinstall.

Foot_tapper the 3 drives are only 2 gig each so i want to have only one,i did try and see what was taking up the space but it wouldn't let me move some of the large files over.

Thanks Paul
Old 24 November 2002, 12:01 AM
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Another option would be to Ghost the first partition, delete all 3 partitions and get Ghost to restore stretching that partition to fit the drive.

H
Old 24 November 2002, 12:44 AM
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If you want the 1 drive with no 'possible future problems' Fdisk is the way to go. Okay, it isn't really user friendly, but read this;

http://fdisk.radified.com/

It really is the best way, believe me
Old 24 November 2002, 10:10 AM
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quote "If you want the 1 drive with no 'possible future problems' Fdisk is the way to go"

but the original question was how to stretch/cobine partitions, nothing mentioned about possible corruption/future problems or anything else....we all know the best result is a fresh build, common sense really

It's like someone asking how to solve a rattle in the engine & taff recommends "put a new engine in"

shunty


[Edited by shunty - 11/24/2002 10:11:25 AM]
Old 24 November 2002, 10:15 AM
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taff, are you for real about that radified link ??
that's fooken years old, it's just a modified version of fdisk..
you will be telling me next that 4 gig is the biggest NTFS size you can have
you OBVIOUSLY have never used 3rd party partitioning software!!

shunty
Old 24 November 2002, 10:54 AM
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quote by super_si "Command line's always better You controll what happens and dont rely on OS platform software"

pedantic_mode_on - you do realise that party magic also runs in dos mode ??

shunty
Old 24 November 2002, 03:23 PM
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shunty, first of all, the original question was how to combine 3 drives into 1 primary partition, there was no suggestion of stretching or whatever it is you said.

"it's just a modified version of fdisk" - No it isn't, it tells you how to fdisk and yes I have used P/m 7.
So you are pretty wrong on all accounts - aren't you
Old 24 November 2002, 03:26 PM
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now now boys. calm down
Old 24 November 2002, 04:23 PM
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taffy boyo - where does it mention on that site that fdisk can merge 3 partitions into 1 then, which was the original question ??
So what happens to the existing data then ?? or are we forgetting about that then ?

quote from http://fdisk.radified.com/

"Hopefully you've already backed up any data, if the drive is not brand new. You will *lose* any data contained on the drive."

what do you do for a living taffy boyyo in the forces, do you work in the IT dept ??

shunty

[Edited by shunty - 11/24/2002 4:23:54 PM]
Old 24 November 2002, 10:28 PM
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Calm down guys

Shunty what do you recommend then,the system is 4 years old,amd 300,196 ram and 6 gig hd win 98 it runs fine as i only do internet and a few office bits,i dont want to buy any software so thought i could just go into bios and do something there.
Taff,is that totally safe what you are saying.

Cheers Guys

Paul
Old 25 November 2002, 09:04 AM
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taffy boyo - quote
"it's just a modified version of fdisk" - No it isn't, it tells you how to fdisk and yes I have used P/m 7.
So you are pretty wrong on all accounts - aren't you

err yes it is a modified version of fdisk, as Microsoft wrote fdisk as you would know if you wern't 21 & have 1 years experience in IT
Other companies take exe's & modifiy the GUI normally & give a few extra options & sell it, that's called business
err....no I'm not wrong on any accounts & normally can't be ar5ed when trying to teach people the right way to do something, but they wont'/don't listen, but I will try to on this thread.

Payl - I would take a few of the answers on here for the right solution for you:

1) - uninstalling apps that arn't required is always a good idea, & some generall house-cleaning, delete all unwanted files, your Win98 is prob on fat32 & you will find that a defrag will prob leave you with less disk-space afterwards, so dont bother. (they don't tell you that in the book)although it does speed the disk up a bit.

2) - make use of additional "partitions" not drives as you said earlier, not being funny but their is a big difference here.

3) - someone mentioned the ghost route, yes this would also be a good way to go, make an image & then restore stretching the primary partition to make more space, there are merge functions now in the newer software that will combine data from different partitions.

4) - straight forward partition magic or whatever_you_use software to again as above says, merge data/use other partitions for extra primary partition space.

I can give you access to my FTP server to pull down a trial copy of partition magic 8, seen as how I am such a nice fella

Now I think that covers anything, but remember, always listen to everyone on the thread, because their are a number of people who have replied to this thread who are very godd technically, personally I havn't come across taffyboyo before & didn't think he really answered your problem correctly

shunty



[Edited by shunty - 11/25/2002 9:05:47 AM]
Old 25 November 2002, 11:00 AM
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Just my 2p's worth. I have used Partition Magic since its release and it has never given me one problem. Saves a lot of grief and as has been said, if your reduced to FDisking its worth a try anyhow. If it was so flakey Si I wouldnt imagine it would have made it this far
Old 25 November 2002, 11:34 AM
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(Here we go again)
Right the original question by Paul was

"Does anyone know how to put my hd into one as it is split into 3 seperate drives"

Surely with all your experience shunty, are you telling me that FDisk cannot be used to perform this action?
The only reason that you don't advise FDisk is the loss of data/applications which Paul has said he doesn't mind re-installing.
Oh and (1) did Microsoft make FDisk? - who would have thought(!)
(2) Yes I do work in an IT dept and (3) I wish i was 21.
Old 25 November 2002, 12:15 PM
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so your recomendation of immediatly fdisk-ing his OS was the best way to go then ??
If one of your server/pc/laptops has problems like this, your trouble-shooting skills are?:

FDISK

I don't need to say any more on this matter, you have summed-up your skill base for me.

over_&_out

shunty
Old 25 November 2002, 12:26 PM
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ok, couldn't resist 1 more:

Original Question:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to put my hd into one as it is split into 3 seperate drives and i keep getting told my main drive is full while the other two have sod all in them.

Thanks Paul

Taffy boyo's 1st reply, even after BuRR had suggested Partition magic:

"Paul you will have to run FDisk and format your drive. Obviously, in doing this you will lose everything that is on there unless you back up onto CD"

Scenario: hey the mail servers not responding, lack of disk space, store.exe is hanging...taffy answers, FDISK it now..

shunty (not replying any more to this thread..honest)


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