LSherratt

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Should I?

I'm pretty sure I'll always stick to an iPhone but I don't think a computer/laptop is as much of an issue? There are 2 things I don't like about my Mac. Photo's and that I never know what programs I have open.

My MacBook has been pretty much perfect and checking prices on eBay, I should get £700 minimum for it .

I'm looking at laptops made by PC Specialist, something similar to this one;
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/compu...-delivery/236/

dpb

Well , my 2 months with apple has taught me you don't indulge in this brand for exciting/likable experience

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Think I'm coming up to almost 4 yrs with my Macbook Air, no way would I go back to microsoft.

Not had even the slightest hint of a problem in that time, where as with Mr Bill's products it was nothing but problems and I regularly felt like smashing my computers to pieces.

Thanks but no thanks.

JackClark

Install Windows on your MacBook. Simple.

BlkKnight

Shame you can't legally go the other way.

Although I think in a few years they might let you.

dpb

might have to, looking at the share price dive !

JackClark

I doubt it. One advantage Apple has is only having to support a limited range of hardware, you can make a Hackintosh now but it's massive pain in the **** and you're always a few versions behind, being up to date is another advantage.

JackClark

Buy, buy, buy.

Scotsman

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Whilst I do really like Windows and running iteration 10 on my desktop at home, I've been using a Macbook Air as well for 4 years as my main work machine and I love it. I'll never go back to a Windows machine again. Really like the hardware and I think OSX is brilliant. What I do love is that my MacBook Air feels as fast and stable as it did when I got it and I don't feel any drive to change it. I can see this lasting me 5+ years which is great value for a work machine and when it comes to change, I'll be getting another Macbook Air.

dpb

I presume he wants something with decent graphics

it would appear an ideal swop

dpb

if he wanted a useful laptop for everyday use ( as opposed to something to fawn over)
he could get a 4 y/o dell like mine and put 550 quid into something useful

then again , maybe hes calculating something incredibly complicated on a continual basis , the like of which only an apple promac is capable

JackClark

I'm writing this on a fully up to date early 08 iMac, my photo library is too large for it to handle smoothly but other than that it's my main work machine, SSD soon. My 2010 Macbook was very expensive but still handles everything I throw at it and will do so for a number of years yet.

People like dpb see the price and think it's because these machines are shiny, no concept of total cost of ownership.

Scotsman

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Yep, total cost of ownership has been great - I'm 46, spent my life around computers, did a couple Computer Science degrees and used to build all my desktop machines myself. The lack of day-to-day hassle with the Mac has been great. I've lost count of the times I've had to reinstall Windows over the years as it just got so bogged down, a fresh install was needed to speed things up again.

I'm certainly not an Apple fanboy though - had a couple iPhones over the years but would never go back to that platform, much prefer android. Also, for my home use then I prefer Windows as a gaming platform, but for work, Mac all the way for me.

An0n0m0us

This! Best thing I ever did with my Macbook Pro when I had it. Windows runs absolutely beautifully on them and the only reason i'd have another Mac. The dual boot is smooth as well so there is no messing with it, one thing I will give Apple credit for is they nailed it spot on getting Windows to work flawlessly with their laptops and desktops.

dpb

Doesn't that almost completely defeat the object ?


I mean if you're buying it from New !

ditchmyster

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My mrs has a macbook pro and that's about 6yrs old and also been absolutely no bother, still works exactly the same as it did the day she bought it.

I wouldn't call myself an apple fanboy, but I'm certainly a fan of things that just do what it says on the tin, never had an Iphone as I can't justify the cost for how much I use a phone these days, so I have a £120 MotoG which does way more than I need it to, and tbh something like a 10yr old nokia would be fine by me as I mostly just call and text.

Geezer

But, if you were professional user in photography and videography, then a machine made in 2008 is unlikely to be able to handle 4K video, or the huge photos now, especially if you are working with multiple layers in Photoshop. Sadly, like gaming, those are not things that stand still in terms of hardware requirements.


I'm sure there are lots of applications that still run ok on them, but not everything, so if your needs are for maximum oomph, then whatever platform you are on, it's going to be costly, and Apple tends to be more costly.


That said, I do believe that Photoshop is a better experience on OSX, or was. Dunno if that's still the case.

**jay**

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Just got my first mac this week after years and years of windows laptops why i never moved to a mac i dont know the performance is amazing (took me a while to get used to it) no way id move back to windows but ive boot camped mine to run windows if i need to use a windows program.

JackClark

Luckily the resale value of Apple products is also excellent.

My 2008 machine with HDD, is awful for a large image collection, desperate times only and forget 4K video. My 2010 i7 MacBook with SSD is great at Photos, could be better of course but it's fully adequate. 4K video, yes but processing is a walk away and do something else job.

I work in TV editing suites quite often, all Mac based, ive only seen one round of upgrades in 7/8 years.

dpb

I think the point of the thread is would his MacBook of 3.5 years have the graphics required

JackClark

required? My 8 year old iMac has the graphics required by me.

dpb

Jack , for once this isn't about you

JackClark

True, it's about you finishing sentences or not as the case may be.

LSherratt

iTrader: (1)

I am reading all comments with interest! It seems I'm better off sticking with my Mac and have Windows installed on it too. I don't actually need to replace it but I was looking at options. I'm not a PC gamer so graphics aren't massively important to me. I'm just a casual laptop user but I like things to be super slick.

If I wanted to boot Windows on it for the occasional use, would my MacBook be up to the job? I have no idea how it works.

JackClark

It will do a great job of running Windows here's Apple's instructions https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204990

**jay**

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Windows will run perfectly on it, can also install fusion and have windows running alongside mac os in another window

BLU

iTrader: (27)

I too jumped to Mac 4.5 years ago in the form of an iMac. Never had a problem and it's still as slick as the day I got it! OSX takes a short while to get used to but once you do it's great! I for one won't go back to Windows, not in the foreseeable future anyway!

JackClark

Back to the original post, open apps show in your Dock with a dot under them. I don't worry too much about running apps, most are now like iOS as in they'll go to sleep and use hardly any resource.

Also worth noting that putting a SSD in will transform the machine, Windows or Mac. I'm going to SSD my 08 iMac soon, prices are still dropping.

pimmo2000

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ipads, iphones, iwatch all great, MAC just not user friendly for someone who likes to take control of their machine.

If you have a simple input with regarded standard output, like photo editing, then yes, they're great, want to get a bit technical and you start looking at having to hack them.

JackClark

You do realise that OSX is a part of the Unix family, I have full control of this machine from the command line, you'd need to install a program for that on Windows.

Maybe your idea of control is play games, because hands down Windows is better at games.