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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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anyone got the porsche brake set up on there classic

im very tempted

i do have the ap 6pot 335kit just now which are good

but i find myself being constantly drawn back to this conversion.

the sale of my ap's would help against the cost,

the one thing thats really putting me off is the 18" wheels needed

i dont want to fck up how my car handles or drives just now

do 18"s really cause issues?
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Wouldn't say 18's cause issues as such but I guess there is just less give whenyou are on the limit.

Can't see the Porsche brakes being any better than your AP's if I'm honest!
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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I'm sure MattyB1983 runs a porche set up on his white Classic..........mind you at my age the memory is a bit flakey. Have a search of his threads.

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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/private-fo...brake-kit.html

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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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thanks for above info

await more feedback
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by allsop83

Can't see the Porsche brakes being any better than your AP's if I'm honest!
As above.....i cant see the their being any benefit.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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im sure they would defo offer slightly improved breaking just down to increased disc size

which obv i could just go for ap set up, but again swapping wheels

but im thinking - really how much better can they be?

there cant be suge a huge difference

would money be beter spent on increasing rear brake size?
ive standard set up with uprated discs and pads from gopspeed

but i could go larger diameter, i suppoese if this offered overall potential better performance?
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Yes the Porsche kit would be better than the AP kit as they have more pad area , the pads are quite a bit bigger , I made a set last week for an M3 using 380mm discs which we drilled at the customers request to match the factory supplied drilled discs , we also used the GT3 6 pot calipers with the ceramic inserts in the pistons






The discs are massive !
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Just out of sheer curiosity, how much did those babe's retail at ??

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there lovley!!

altho the debate of drilled discs again

im sure you recommend against drilling discs?, due to increased risk of hairline cracking around the holes.

i see you mentioned its just at customers request in this case.

why do porsche use drilled discs - i see at yearly events countless 911 turbos with the drilled discs

altho the lambo lp thing has non drilled and the most gigantic calipers ive ever seen on a car. and the lambo rep says they dont use drilled discs, but couldnt tell me why?
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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after some googling that seems rubbish, loads of lambo discs drilled lol
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Some of the top end cars have the discs cast with the holes in them , so less likely to crack , but on track days all drilled discs will start cracking around the holes.

I tried talking this customer out of drilled discs , but its what he wanted , I don't think it will ever see a track , its more of a garage queen !

This kit was £2k complete.

I should have kept them as I wanted to fit them to my new transporter I have just had done , I have 22"'s fitted and the standard brakes look rather lost lol



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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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cheers ian

so help me out

upgrade my front brakes further which means 18" wheels

or stick some better calipers and discs pads on the rear?
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Originally Posted by jef
cheers ian

so help me out

upgrade my front brakes further which means 18" wheels

or stick some better calipers and discs pads on the rear?
If it was me , I'd put the sti brembo setup on the rears , it will brake so much flatter instead of nose diving , it will help the overall braking hugely
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
I'm sure MattyB1983 runs a porche set up on his white Classic..........mind you at my age the memory is a bit flakey. Have a search of his threads.
Quite true, Matt has got the Porsche set up - link.

Absolutely awesome brakes too - brilliant!
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I'd have to admit to being curious Jef...

I have the 330mm six pot AP set-up on my lardy Newage STI and can't imagine anything other than a race circuit pushing them close to fading.

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P.S. Actually I did get a bit of fade coming down Holme Moss, but can't mention at what speed !
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Ian........ blimey that's cheap for that set up......I run Tar-ox 12 pots and the cost makes my nose bleed LOL

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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
I'd have to admit to being curious Jef...

I have the 330mm six pot AP set-up on my lardy Newage STI and can't imagine anything other than a race circuit pushing them close to fading.

dunx

P.S. Actually I did get a bit of fade coming down Holme Moss, but can't mention at what speed !
want to a fair bit of track work, and other bits in future

i think ill be going with ians advice on the rear
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Are the porsche GT3 calipers made by alcon ?
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Originally Posted by Matt Sills
Are the porsche GT3 calipers made by alcon ?
No they are made by Brembo
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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You wouldn't happen to know how much they retail for ? What are the main advantages of ceramic pistons, more heat no rust ?
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The calipers are around a grand , the ceramic pistons will pass less heat into the caliper so the fluid won't boil as quickly
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