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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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What kind of insurance rake off DO you get for the bother of fitting one of these contraptions ?

This was on a modern pretend 4 x 4 ( not soft top ) parked at Morissons and iv seen other cars you just would have thought was as safe to leave

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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I heard they act as a handy lever to help brake the steering lock.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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You can break a steering lock with your hands, or your feet and hands: thats just nonsense people repeat in pubs. It isnt a steering column lock that stops people taking the car though, is it? Also, anything is better than nothing, as most thefts are opportunist and its easier for them to find something else. If you have something they want then youll need a Disklock or a Dipol and a well-fitted Cat1 alarm.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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...and then they'll burgle your house and take your keys.

Even for a bloody Skoda (2 years ago)!

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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I have a Disklok for mine, had it for about 10 years now and moved it from car to car

the only one worth having IMO, but doesn't reduce your premium
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Can you steal new cars without the keys? Serious question.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Not according to the police who investigated my theft.

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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A Stoplock Pro stopped my cousin's car being taken off his drive some years ago. They'd got into the car and got it going (old car without electronic security) but were banging on the horn whilst trying and failing to get the stoplock off, which meant they were heard and disturbed.
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This was in an underground carpark belonging to a supermarket ( closed by 8 pm ) on costa geriatrica ,



probably a 6k car !

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
Not according to the police who investigated my theft.

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This is what I thought. Surely key keyed to ECU makes it virtually impossible without a laptop, knowledge and a bit of time.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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If on the street then they can use a flat bed lorry and winch it on, i park front wheel pointing towards curb and fit disc lock. hopefully they just drive by to find easier car.

Ultimately if they want it they car jack you with a gun or acid spray etc so easier just to let them take it.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Well, yeah. I meant in a more 'traditional' sense
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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I thought you meant the external type of lock which attaches to the spoke of the wheel. I have never had one but was told once that they only delay a theft by a few seconds as a rule.

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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
You can break a steering lock with your hands, or your feet and hands: thats just nonsense people repeat in pubs. It isnt a steering column lock that stops people taking the car though, is it? Also, anything is better than nothing, as most thefts are opportunist and its easier for them to find something else. If you have something they want then youll need a Disklock or a Dipol and a well-fitted Cat1 alarm.
I would have imagined most thefts nowadays were pretty carefully organised , because in general cars are more difficult to take , still there you go
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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disklok+clifford 650 mkII+proximity sensor+blackjax+home sensor+ 2 staffies behind front door
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
disklok+clifford 650 mkII+proximity sensor+blackjax+home sensor+ 2 staffies behind front door
I'd have thought that was the bare minimum given your location
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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That's just for his lawnmower!
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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sorry id move , unless the money was very good
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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These contraptions will reduce your premiums, even if it's only by a few ££ but it does.

However, if you park your car on a mates drive, don't fit it, because you were simply dropping of something, and it gets robbed....... Bang goes your insurance payout.

Personally I feel it's always going to be a deterrent. And sometimes thats enough for someone who was contemplating robbing your car.

I have one fitted, and use it even when my car is parked on my drive, with my partners car behind it. BUT, it's not stated on the insurance, as there will always be a time (e.g petrol station) that you could have it robbed, and the insurance company will find a way not to pay up.
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
Not according to the police who investigated my theft.

Steve
If you know the alarm type then its not complicated (and its less-so if you only have to deal with the ECU; although I wouldnt want to be swapping parts on someones driveway.

Most theft is still opportunistic, even if they know what they want. Car theft is nothing like 'Gone in 60 Seconds'.....
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