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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Sorry for the muppet question.

Its a 1998, which engine wise is a v1.5?

Is it a V4 or a V5 is my key question, as need to get some foglight covers to fit an induction thing on one side, and think I have bought the wrong ones?



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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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It looks like a V4 to me, because it has the early bumper.

If the coil pack is slap bang in the middle of the inlet manifold, it's a V3 or 4 - If it's mounted on the passenger side then it's a V5 or 6

Those are PIAA Driving Lights you have fitted in the photo, not standard Fogs BTW
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Def a version 4 for fog light covers mate.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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I'm not sure the fog covers will fit over PIAA lights, as they stick out of the bumper further forward than the standard foglight.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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Cheers gents- they are PIAA lights, but they are going, as need the space for the induction hole in the fog light space.

V4 covers- best go get some! Im trying to find those nice ones with the mesh over them if anyone has any ideas
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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could be interested in the piaa lights for my terzo
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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You dont have spot covers in part ex do you lol!

May well be keen mate- send me an offer

Distributor also in the middle of the intake manifold, so defo V4 cheers.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Its not a version anything, only classic STI's were versions (2-6), yours is just an MY98 UK car, these run a phase 1.5 engine.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Its not a version anything, only classic STI's were versions (2-6), yours is just an MY98 UK car, these run a phase 1.5 engine.

Tony

Why do you continually post that there are no Versions as such (apart from Classic STi's?) - Everybody knows what's being referred to, and so do you I bet

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Well your calling it a version 4? that in UK terms would be an MY97 car so are you giving wrong info out or do you want to give the correct info out in the first place.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Now you really are just being a muppet

I'm referring to it as a Version4, which is equivalent to a UK1998


Version III - Production from 09/96 – 08/97
Version IV - Production from 09/97 – 08/98

(Taken from Wikipedia)

These are the Phase 1.5 Cars

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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What is a 92 model then?

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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The same as a 93 model, and Phase 1

...anyway, back to the OP's topic - sorry for the diversion mate

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Well your calling it a version 4? that in UK terms would be an MY97 car so are you giving wrong info out or do you want to give the correct info out in the first place.

Tony
Afraid I have to disagree with you here Tony.

A Ver III is a UK 97my equivalent.

If you look at a Ver I, Ver 1.5 and Ver II (UK 93/94/95/96my) they have a the smaller offset intercooler fitted & have the slotted bonnet vents & the small bonnet scoop, they also have 1 coil per cylinder (on plug coils)

In 1997 (uk) or in the case of imports, a Ver III the cars were built with the larger intercooler that sits square to the bulkhead/engine & they also started to fit the honeycomb bonnet vents & the larger bonnet scoop.. At this point they also came away from on plug coils and started to fit a single coil with ht leads.


Ooops bit late with that reply sorry, that'll teach me for cooking dinner whilst trying to write a response.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Afraid I have to disagree with you here Tony.

A Ver III is a UK 97my equivalent.

If you look at a Ver I, Ver 1.5 and Ver II (UK 93/94/95/96my) they have a the smaller offset intercooler fitted & have the slotted bonnet vents & the small bonnet scoop, they also have 1 coil per cylinder (on plug coils)

In 1997 (uk) or in the case of imports, a Ver III the cars were built with the larger intercooler that sits square to the bulkhead/engine & they also started to fit the honeycomb bonnet vents & the larger bonnet scoop.. At this point they also came away from on plug coils and started to fit a single coil with ht leads.


Ooops bit late with that reply sorry, that'll teach me for cooking dinner whilst trying to write a response.
I got it covered mate
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Afraid I have to disagree with you here Tony.

A Ver III is a UK 97my equivalent.

If you look at a Ver I, Ver 1.5 and Ver II (UK 93/94/95/96my) they have a the smaller offset intercooler fitted & have the slotted bonnet vents & the small bonnet scoop, they also have 1 coil per cylinder (on plug coils)

In 1997 (uk) or in the case of imports, a Ver III the cars were built with the larger intercooler that sits square to the bulkhead/engine & they also started to fit the honeycomb bonnet vents & the larger bonnet scoop.. At this point they also came away from on plug coils and started to fit a single coil with ht leads.


Ooops bit late with that reply sorry, that'll teach me for cooking dinner whilst trying to write a response.

UK cars didnt have an MY93

My point is that you should only give the Model year, model and domestic market, versions should only be used on classic STI's and even then model years should be represented, as for finding out which of the MY94/95/96 cars are version 1 or 2 (as there are 3 cars there it must mean that the MY95 is a version 1.5 ) you have just confused the matter even more

If person x told the op that his car was a version 5 and he ordered some brake discs for it (as it was the 5th year of UK car production) would you pay for his discs when he found the 294mm ones didnt fit and he actually needed 266mm?

OP, please ALWAYS refer to your car as the model year (MY98), and domestic market (UK) to save alot of confusion and wasted money (especially if your ordering parts).

Tony

PS, do you actually believe everything they put on wiki Fiestaboy?
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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UK98 is always referred to as a Version4 (which is what i did in the first place) - Centre mounted coilpack, facelift dash, facelift bonnet etc..etc...
UK97 is always referred to as a V3.

Or, to put it another way...

92-96 - V1+2 - G*8 A+B - Phase1 - Individual Coilpacks
97-98 - V3+4 - G*8 C+D - Phase1.5 - Coilpack centremounted on the Inlet Manifold
99-00 - V5+6 - G*8 E+F - Phase2 - Coilpack mounted on Passenger side of Inlet Manifold


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PS, do you actually believe everything they put on wiki Fiestaboy?
I'm surprised you haven't been on to them yet in a quest for **** supremacy, trying to get it 'corrected' !
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Im still trying to figure out what the difference between the MY94 (must be a version 1) then an MY95 (has to be a version 2) and an MY96, (must be a version 3, oh wait thats an MY97....)

This is why its confusing and as i have stated, no versions on NONE Classic STI's
Keep it up, im still winning this argument

Tony

PS so if a JDM MY92 is a version 1, MY93 a version 2, MY94 a version 3, MY95 a version 4, MY96 a version 5 etc etc etc

PPS, dont get me started on new age cars

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I'll leave you to 'win' your argument on your own then, as i'm getting a bit of all this now
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Well I know its now a version 4 car when Im looking for parts And its a WR model, not a WRX- who knows whats different on it.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
UK cars didnt have an MY93
You are absolutely correct Tony, my mistake, Uk cars were brought into this country in 94.

Originally Posted by TonyBurns
My point is that you should only give the Model year, model and domestic market, versions should only be used on classic STI's and even then model years should be represented, as for finding out which of the MY94/95/96 cars are version 1 or 2 (as there are 3 cars there it must mean that the MY95 is a version 1.5 ) you have just confused the matter even more
I agree with you that people should not refer to UK cars as a Ver I,II,II etc as things get complicated (they should stick to model years), but the fact of the matter is that by 1996 the imports had only got as far as Ver II and the cars had been in production for more than 2 yrs, so there were .5 versions being produced.

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If person x told the op that his car was a version 5 and he ordered some brake discs for it (as it was the 5th year of UK car production) would you pay for his discs when he found the 294mm ones didn’t fit and he actually needed 266mm?
The op is not asking about brakes is he?... He is asking about his front bumper & seeing as the uk cars came with fog lamps fitted as std there is no option to buy covers for the uk versions (a dealer would just shrug his shoulders)... If you want to fit covers to a uk car then you would have to purchase ones listed for an import & for this you would need to know which import shares the same bumper, which is in this case is a ver IV.. The confusion started when you inferred that he has a ver V style fitted which is incorrect (he's already bought the wrong ones once!)

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OP, please ALWAYS refer to your car as the model year (MY98), and domestic market (UK) to save alot of confusion and wasted money (especially if your ordering parts).

Irrelevant in this case, but I agree that if he wants to purchase anything mechanical for his car then he should quote a uk my to ensure that he gets the correct parts.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Grant74
Well I know its now a version 4 car when Im looking for parts And its a WR model, not a WRX- who knows whats different on it.
If its a WR model then it will have all the prodrive goodies fitted (leather, PIAA's, PPP, suspension, wheels etc) and they are pretty rare as they only produced a very limited number per year.

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I always wonder if there is something different about the engine as well (CDB etc), but have come to the conclusion by searching that the only real way to know is to open it up.

JGM did comment that the engine was very quiet (there wasnt any knock) when he mapped it.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Any of this look familiar?
Impreza WRX Online Catalog - Road Cars Prodrive
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Dont think Ive seen that one before- lots has changed on the car anyway, so little of the suspension, brakes, or ECU are left! The brakes were awful.
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Even though the JDM cars were first launched in Nov 1992, they are MY93 cars. This is because the first MY ran from Nov 92 to Sep 93 (and not the convenient Jan to Dec calander year months).

And this pretty much set the month-month MY period for all the Classic MYs upto MY00. i.e. 1 Sep to the following year's 31 Aug (give or take the odd displaced month between the MY93-96 "ph.1" cars period)

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I do always still wonder with my WR if they didnt just take a Jap STI, and reprogram the ECU for UK fuel. The ECU had a Jap STI sticker, ther suspension was STI bilstein etc.

So a little suspension and ECU tuning to a Jap STI, and thats a simple solution. Or start from scratch- know what I would have done.
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