Finally got them on my classic.
Sourced the inner lenses that were completley rotted away, so now fitted.

One question thoug, where the grill on my MY00 normally clicks into the standard headlights, its not snug at all. In fact quite loose. I couldn't see anything removable from the oldes ones, to go on.

What do you do about it?

 

taken from this site -- NorthUrsalia.com: Morrette Twin Projector Beam Headlamp Conversion

might find something there to help

 

Thanks albob. Seen that before, doesn't mention the grill fitting back. Its on, and fairly secure. Just not ideal.

 

there is a section on the guide where he mentions 'lining up the lights' before refitting the grill -- thought you might be able to move them slightly to take up the gap. i'll have a look at mine tomorrow and see what the gap is like....

 

Tie wraps are your friend. There's some holes in the grille at the top. Thread some tie wraps through and zip them up. They can't be seen when the bonnets down.

If the use of tie wraps bother you then you can do without them, the grille won't go anywhere. Mine have been like this for years. No problems yet.

 

Don't mind using tie wraps. I was just thinking perhaps I was missing some sort of inner clip that goes on the morettes to hold the grill on. The rectangle hole looks the same size and shape as the standard headlights, so I thought it would just click into place.

 

iirc you have to use the 'old' rubber inserts from your original lights ...& purchasing new clips helps

 

OK will have another go when I attempt to wire up the inners.

Been getting square eyes reading up on morettes. It seems you two Daz's, along with tanyatriangles and alcazar know more than a thing or two about these units. So plenty of questions I'm afraid:

1st one DazW, sorted the inner problem out yet, and got anywhere modifying these to take another bulb?

Who is running both the sidelights (standard and morettes outers)? Did you just splice into the original?

Shall I HID or not? I know the legalities, but also know HID's take slightly better to the morettes than the standard lights. (I have PIAA 80xt's, but want something for regular driving)

Who wants to give me a complete shopping list for the loom and realy for the inners (lazy I know) ?

cheers guys

 

I ran into a snag on my first set of custom brackets & im waiting for the updated ones & the lights that are waiting to go in are H3 bulbs ...but I've also been busy with another 'lighting' project, getting P1 lights into a pre-facelift bumper!

Side lights I just spliced ...& spliced again (my P1 lights have side lights!)

HID's or not? ...it's a can of worms re: dazzling & legality, but I haven't been stopped for them & they've passed MOT's ...& I'm not too sure of the legality of my morettes full stop, as they dont have any eu markings re: bulb type

 

Is that custom brackets for fitting some aftermarket inners, or brackets to convert the standard inners to a H3?

I was also looking on this site, a guy that doesn't come on any more ian/555, he made the P1 lights fit into his morettes. But all the pic links are dead. Would have been good to have seen that. But they are 90mm which is 3.5inch and the morettes inners are 5 inch, as you know.

 

I have side lights in both Morretter Outer lense and OE side lights, they were just spliced into. I also have HID in my Morretes They are a dual bulb in the outer lenses only. The inner bulbs are still horrible yellow H2 I haven't seen any aftermarket bulbs in H2 let alone HID in them.

I also have P1 lights that are also non HID but I have advertised these for sale but it appears no bugger wants them

I'm working on the car later so I'll take some pictures if i remember to.

 

Brackets to fit Wipac 4.5" H3 spot/driving lamps, they're quite a common lamp as they're used on BMW Mini's ...& H3 HID bulbs are available too

I did think about fitting P1 lights into the morette housing, but the 90mm size put me off a bit ...so i've stuck them where they should be

 

Interesting.
What about welding the orginal moreette 3 arms onto them>

 

Could do, but my morette arms aren't in great shape either (corrosion) ...plus you wouldn't be able to easily replace the lamps if they cracked/corroded again

 

I supose they don't seem to bad to knock some up.
Have you gone for the type with the chrome outer?
You must have gone through a few sets of lights to get a good fit so far.

 

I did ...but i'm binning the case & just using the inner lamp & having a bezel made up at he same time as the brackets ...the bezels will then be colour coded (powder coated) to match

It was the first set of lights I tried ...but i do have a mate with a mini

 

Well, here I am, actually on the net, FROM FRANCE. It actually works, with only a one week delay,

Anyway, first off, the loose grille problem: mine did that too. If you take it off, you'll see that it fits by plugging in at it's base, and clipping in at the top. What happens is that when you depress the upper clips, they stick. They LOOK OK but aren't. Solution is to remove them, (two screws), lift their tongues, replace them and away you go.

As for H2 to H3: Remember that the fitting of ANY bulb has to be precise: if it's not EXACTLY on the focal point of the REFLECTOR, beam pattern will be all over, at best, and non-existent at worst

Thus, you'll need to make something that can hold an H3 exactly as the H" was. If I were doing it, I'd want an old reflector to cannibalise to take measurements without the glass.

I've also toyed with the idea of some Hella 90mm HID P1 units in place of the inners, but have not done it as a) I can't find any cheap, and b) I can't afford them new

Daz Davies: did you go the BOB5 route with your HIDs? Any problems with beam pattern? Are they as spot on as the Cibies were with H4?

BTW: I laughed out loud at Daz Davies' description of H2 halogen as "yellow". Daz, mate, you ought to have been around BEFORE halogen. THEN you'd know about yellow and candle bulbs. 36W non-halogen, anyone? with 48W if you searched I remember buying my first halogen bulbs, a b@satrd concoction someone was selling with a halogen glass mated to a BPF, (British pre-focus) base. Cost nearly as much as H1 halogens do now but worked well. they were illegal though: a bit like HID in a halogen reflector, but we used 'em, and we could SEE!!!!!!!!!!

 

I didn't go the Bob 5 route, Although mine is a Hi Lo H4 bulb it actually uses two ballasts per Bulb so four in total. As for beam and scatter I can honestly say they are as clear as they were before the conversion just an awful lot brighter and whiter.

As said above I would just like so be able to even up the outers and inners to stop them looking so mismatched. Even if there was an aftermarket non HID H2 Bulb available that addressed the colour difference.

 

Yeah, I see yr point, IS there an H3 even? Can't say I've ever seen an HID H3, but some of the uprated ones, (Nightbreakers, etc) are available in H3, aren't they?

 

We have H3 HID kits available.

 

joey -- i found this walkthrough for fitting HID's (if it helps u decide..) (pics are missing)

https://www.scoobynet.com/lighting-o...ml#post6272491

 

As promised here is a couple of pictures of mine, hopefully you'll see what I mean about the colour difference between The non HID inner and HID outer.

 

Is it that the inners are white, while the outers are blue?



BTW: what are the two extra oval-ish grilles on your bonnet?

 

They are Aerocatch bonnet catches. Car will be circa 600bhp when I finish and will do a fair amount of track work. These ensure my bonnet won't lift open when I'm giving it some stick

 

Thanks for the advice guys.

Finally got to use them in the dark, well getting dusk. I'll have to adjust them properly, as they were less noticeable than my crystal headlights! I can see there is a physical gap between the passenger headlight and the morette housing, so maybe its that.