I want to move the router from my loft room to the landing.

better coverage & media streaming.


now the only power to the router at the mo is via the loft spur from the room below.

I cant get to the mains socket that the spur runs from in the room below to plug in there (space restrictions)

question.

Can i break the spur and and put an inline fused socket, all that will run from this would be a 15v router

or would it be best to take a 13amp fused extension lead from the socket in the loft and feed that from the loft back down, and run the router via that in the room below

i cant get to the socket in the room below due to a bed being in the way of the socket, and no other way to access it

Mart

 

Why don't you just extend the ring and add another socket in a more convinient place, you will need to have it part p certified though.

There used to be a loophole where if the work was started before jan 2005 it did not need to be certified but I do not think they are going to buy that.

 

I think the wiring regs say that you can only have one socket on a spur (though whether that means it has to be a single I'm not sure). However as it's all low current you could get away with what you are proposing though a qualified electrician wouldn't sign it off. Just don't go plugging any heaters / kettles etc. into it.

 

Part P is only for bathrooms and kitchens is it not?

 

Its for the whole system. You cant do **** all to electrics unless qualified. Problems arise when you want to sell your property and have to provide ceritificates saying that it is part P compliant. If you are planning to live there forever and have electrical knowledge, then go for it.

Andy

 

Could you make a small extension lead so u can plug ur router in the existing socket(in loft)
Its only a extension so not classed as fixed wiring iirc
hth
Brett

 

So hypothetically lets say the house was built prior to the regs being enforced (i.e. like my 1950s semi), you inform the purchaser / estate agent that any new wiring was installed prior to part P being enforced (even though it may have been done after ) and therefore you don't have any certificates. Will that stop your house from being sold? Don't think so!

When we bought our house the issue of electrics was only brought up as we had a full survey and the surveyor suggested that an electrician have a look at it if certificates were not available (to cover their backs obviously). We asked the vendors... there were no certificates, and if we wanted it checked out we could do so at our own expense. Therefore we didn't bother. I'd had a decent look at the important bits during a viewing and it looked fine to me, but then I've only had three years at Uni getting an electronic engineering degree followed by 13 years in the industry so what do I know

House hasn't burnt down yet

 

Like you say "Looked fine to me" was that with a ELIT ? do you know the wiring isnt damaged by "Looking at it" sorry thats a very poor view considering your qualifacations, You are assuming a lot by just looking at it,
Ive gone to houses that look fully modernised electrics "look" fine at a glance, nice new switches and sockets, even anice new mains unit, split load the works,
Yeah until u take of the cover/ a switch and find mixed coloured wiring, no earths at lights or sockets,
The mains has been moved and it has nice new harmonised wiring at it, Great you think until you ask where it was moved from and all you find is a lot of JB`s were it was just extended,
If you buy a house you should make sure it has a Periodic inspection prior to buying,
A electrician with a few bits of test gear will tell you just how safe it is,

not having a go at Graz direct but I have heard it so many times before and its total crap you cant tell by just looking at it sorry.

Brett

 

Personally I think you should go with the extension lead. Obviously a lot less hassle with regards to wiring etc, and if and when needed, you can reboot the router from another room without going up and down into the loft. Or you could turn it off alltogether for security purposes, holidays etc.

EDIT: Ignore me, I thought you were putting the router IN your loft.

 

I was talking about today's regulations. If you were buying a house pre Part P, then only a fool would buy a property without a electrical report.

The wiring has changed colour with part P, unless you have a supply of old coded wire, and it comes to light that you've had wiring done after part P then you've lied, and would be in breach of your contract by misleading the new purchaser.

Andy

 

Did you start this project before january 2005 though iirc you can take 2 spurs off 1 outlet on a ring main acording to 16th edition regs although total spurs must not exceed the total amount of sockets on the ring main itself.

The 17th edition regs are out soon so that will probably render that obsolete.

 

thread hi-jack:

What if you had an extension lead plugged into a normal socket, but then nailed the extension lead to the walls with those P (?) clips? Would that be classed as a fixed installation?

 

Providing you owned the house before then, it's going to be pretty hard for anybody to prove otherwise, as luckily they brought in the new Blue / Brown coloured cabling before that regulation, so there is some non part p electrical around on the new colour scheme, in fact all of my house is

 

If you owned the house before part p came in and you have had no work done, you won't have a part p certificate.

 

Thats right. If you were selling your house with no certificates(pre Part P), I would be having an electrical report done, most definately expecting to get some money of the value of the house, but that's me, always want a discount for whatever I'm buying.

Andy

 

As mentioned most vendors will say if you want an electrical report you pay for it. If the result of that highlights any remedial work that needs doing to make the place safe then you may be able to negotiate a reduction in your offer. If it's all ok then you've spent out on a report for peace of mind, totally worthwhile.

However I'm guessing you're an electrician and realise the dangers of bad electrical installations, I'm not sure that Joe Public is too concerned and may be lower on a list of things to worry about when buying a house. Like I say the only person to question it during our purchase was the surveyor and if you only had a valuation then I'm not sure the issue would be raised at all?

 

All done

was looking initially to spur of the spur, using a fused socket. Nice try but...

you cant get single gang fused sockets from the major diy chains.. 3 gang fused sockets no probs.. but single..

so i then toyed with a fused switch feeding a single gang socket.. but to be honest, this was a lot of hassle..

So i opted for a 3m extension lead, run back along side the original spur, and the router plugged in there.

works ok, and now i can media stream to the xbox

cheers for all your input


Mart