Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Brunstrom: ecstasy is safer than aspirin

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:23 PM
  #1  
user 62970821's Avatar
user 62970821
Thread Starter
BANNED
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,447
Likes: 0
Default Brunstrom: ecstasy is safer than aspirin

The motorists favorite Police Chief has gone on record as saying :

"Ecstasy is a remarkably safe substance, far safer than aspirin. It's far less dangerous than tobacco or alcohol which are freely available."

Richard Brunstrom Chief Constable North Wales Ecstasy Controversy |Sky News|UK News
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:24 PM
  #2  
SJ_Skyline's Avatar
SJ_Skyline
Scooby Senior
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 21,922
Likes: 2
From: Limbo
Default

I'm sure Leah Betts parents would beg to differ with him
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:27 PM
  #3  
cookstar's Avatar
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
From: Stroke it baby!
Default

It is actually quite a safe drug, if you can get it in pure form, trouble is thats so difficult now.


Never did me any harm


Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:29 PM
  #4  
j4ckos mate's Avatar
j4ckos mate
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,283
Likes: 0
Default

wonder what he would do if all the pc's turned up and took a few
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:35 PM
  #5  
NotoriousREV's Avatar
NotoriousREV
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,581
Likes: 0
Default

How many people die from taking aspirin? And he's dead right about alcohol and tobacco.

I detest the guy, but on this occasion, he's right. I'm sure Leah Betts parents would argue, however what about people who die from nut allergies? Is Ecstasy safer than peanuts?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:37 PM
  #6  
kingofturds's Avatar
kingofturds
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 17,376
Likes: 6
From: Zanzibar
Default

This guy sounds like he did too many e's
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:37 PM
  #7  
STi wanna Subaru's Avatar
STi wanna Subaru
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,517
Likes: 0
From: Yorkshire
Default

the problem is you cant have a sensible debate about drugs in this country without people throwing words like junkie etc about. These tend to be the same people who will have been smashed on alcohol for most of the Xmas break.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:38 PM
  #8  
SJ_Skyline's Avatar
SJ_Skyline
Scooby Senior
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 21,922
Likes: 2
From: Limbo
Default

If you're going down that route, 40% of people die in their beds - are you suggesting that taking ecstacy is safer then going to bed?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:38 PM
  #9  
Leslie's Avatar
Leslie
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 39,877
Likes: 0
Default

Brunstrom is an ****!

Les
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:44 PM
  #10  
Gear Head's Avatar
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Default

I laughed my a*se off when I watched hollyoaks the other day. A lad had smoked a spliff around the corner, came back and he was all over the place, bumping into things, knocking stuff over.
Yea, a real good grasp of what weed actually does. I have smoked the odd one over the years and it has never had that affect.
Give me a bottle of JD however and.........
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:47 PM
  #11  
Sonic''s Avatar
Sonic'
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 9,277
Likes: 0
From: Couch Spud
Default

I read this the other day

He wants to legalise drugs, but yet motorists are pure sin, and need to be treated worse than dealers/rapists/murderers etc

I wonder if his stance on drugs is down to the fact that he cant stop it, and its getting worse in his area month by month

On saying that, there have been significant arrests and prosecutions and lots of dawn raids on the dealers in his area, so Im surprised really that he wants to legalise it as he is managing to catch *some* of them (but not as many as motorists )
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:51 PM
  #12  
EddScott's Avatar
EddScott
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,575
Likes: 65
From: West Wales
Default

I actually dispise alcohol but am perfectly comfortable for others to take drugs in a controlled and sensible manner.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:58 PM
  #13  
Leslie's Avatar
Leslie
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 39,877
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by EddScott
I actually dispise alcohol but am perfectly comfortable for others to take drugs in a controlled and sensible manner.
What does history tell us about how long that is likely to last though?

Les
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:07 PM
  #14  
+Doc+'s Avatar
+Doc+
Scooby Senior
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,119
Likes: 9
From: Sunny Ilson
Default

If your stating facts, its a fact that more people die from peanuts than ecstasy. However making it legal would`nt work, firstly the govt would put a tax on it that even fuel would be scared of and secondly it becomes easier to get hold of and abused by more (see alcohol).
The laws at the moment dont work thats true, however I believe its probably the best your going to get under the circumstances. Legalizing it is not the perfect answer.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:11 PM
  #15  
[Davey]'s Avatar
[Davey]
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire
Default

Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I'm sure Leah Betts parents would beg to differ with him
You can name one person who died from an E overdose.. Now I could string off LOADS of people whom I actually known or are from famillies I know who have died from Lung cancer or Alchochol abuse.

Also someone of their pickle on E is pretty much harmless.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:15 PM
  #16  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

he realy is a few burgers short of a bbq isn't he lol
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:18 PM
  #17  
mamoon2's Avatar
mamoon2
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,193
Likes: 0
Default

ou can name one person who died from an E overdose.. Now I could string off LOADS of people whom I actually known or are from famillies I know who have died from Lung cancer or Alchochol abuse.
Exactly! Leah Betts is the only person i've ever heard of dying from taking Ecstacy and thats only because of the video i was shown at school 10 years ago.

You get drunks every weekend smashing ever others heads in, the most trouble you would get out of someone who has had E's is them running round hugging each other to death
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:20 PM
  #18  
Odds on's Avatar
Odds on
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by [Davey]
You can name one person who died from an E overdose..
But no one has yet. Leah Betts died from drinking to much water. Its true she had taken ecstasy, but that didn't kill her.

Last edited by Odds on; Jan 2, 2008 at 01:27 PM. Reason: Spelling
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:21 PM
  #19  
GC8WRX's Avatar
GC8WRX
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
From: Wanting the English to come first in England for a change!
Default

Stop with the leah betts dross!

She died cos she was force fed ten pints of water by worried parents cos thats what "experts" were saying to do in the 90's, not killed by an E.

The load on her body from all the water messed with her vital organs!!!!!
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:23 PM
  #20  
bibo_boy's Avatar
bibo_boy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,019
Likes: 0
From: R.I.P. R.A. :(
Default

I think you'll find Leah Betts Died from drinking too much water...... doh!

MDMA (pure E) is actually quite a safe substance if taken in moderation.

Problems start because the production of E is not regulated.

You really have to ask yourself... Why is this illegal?

I know miles more people suffering the effects of Smoking and Drinking than E but they are socially acceptable drugs.....
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:26 PM
  #21  
cookstar's Avatar
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
From: Stroke it baby!
Default

Originally Posted by bibo_boy
I think you'll find Leah Betts Died from drinking too much water...... doh!

MDMA (pure E) is actually quite a safe substance if taken in moderation.

Problems start because the production of E is not regulated.

You really have to ask yourself... Why is this illegal?

I know miles more people suffering the effects of Smoking and Drinking than E but they are socially acceptable drugs.....
No more than a few lines huh
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:34 PM
  #22  
Shark Man's Avatar
Shark Man
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 7,498
Likes: 0
From: Ascended to the next level
Default

Either this bloke is getting seriously mis-quoted by the media or he is bonkers Although it's probably a bit of both.

I can understand how stuff like Asprin can be considered more dangerous as ecstasy because everyone knows "E" can be harmful, potentially deadly. Yet aren't always aware of the dangers of legal medication.

BUT very few people realise the dangers taking non-prescribed and legal medication, such as Asprin can pose - especially on a regular basis.

Like alot of medication, it has side effects, it can cause allergic reactions (my mum's partner WILL DIE if he is given Asprin ), not to list other harmful effects such as liver damage.

Lots of medication states not to use whilst operating heavy machinary (such as some cold remedies). And what do alot of people do regardless? Drive a car!

As with smoking and Tobacco, well. It's down to ignorance: Everyone is aware of all the harmful problems it causes. But people ignore it. Arguably less people are going to be so ignorant over ecstacy. Mostly because of it being banned and thanks to all the anti-drug propaganda we all get shown throughout our lives.

Last edited by Shark Man; Jan 2, 2008 at 01:38 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:35 PM
  #23  
bibo_boy's Avatar
bibo_boy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,019
Likes: 0
From: R.I.P. R.A. :(
Default

Originally Posted by cookstar
No more than a few lines huh
It was a long long time ago! When Glow sticks and Vics were the order of the day....

Never did find that Big fish, Little fish or cardboard box
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:42 PM
  #24  
bibo_boy's Avatar
bibo_boy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,019
Likes: 0
From: R.I.P. R.A. :(
Default

Originally Posted by GC8WRX
Stop with the leah betts dross!

She died cos she was force fed ten pints of water by worried parents cos thats what "experts" were saying to do in the 90's, not killed by an E.

The load on her body from all the water messed with her vital organs!!!!!
If you also remember that poster ad campaign featuring her in a coma....

Well that was created and paid for by various firms who's biggest clients were beer and energy drink suppliers both who were concerned about how E was reducing the amount of money they were making.....
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:51 PM
  #25  
SJ_Skyline's Avatar
SJ_Skyline
Scooby Senior
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 21,922
Likes: 2
From: Limbo
Default

Wow... All I said was that her parents might disagree with Brunstrom's stance... touchy or what?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:53 PM
  #26  
[Davey]'s Avatar
[Davey]
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire
Default

Everyone is still standing up and saying E is harmfull.. Can I just ask.. What are you on? lol!

Everyone is quoteing the same story about L.B. and that wasnt even the drug that killed her!

Media scaremongering!

Sweet jesus.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:57 PM
  #27  
Shark Man's Avatar
Shark Man
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 7,498
Likes: 0
From: Ascended to the next level
Default

Coke.......





a Cola

Caffine and cup of sugar per can harmful??? Pah! I could go cold turkey anytime I wanted....<thud>
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #28  
Sonic''s Avatar
Sonic'
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 9,277
Likes: 0
From: Couch Spud
Default

Lorna Spinks
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:01 PM
  #29  
Odds on's Avatar
Odds on
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Sonic'
Lorna Spinks
Bloody hell, that was 6.5 years ago!

Looks like people aren't falling down every week then due to ectasy.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:03 PM
  #30  
GC8WRX's Avatar
GC8WRX
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
From: Wanting the English to come first in England for a change!
Default

There should be an honest review of all drugs and policies imo!!!!!!

Alcohol is worse than most "recreational" drugs, but the people who make the laws up drink alcohol so wont touch it!!!!

How many people do you know who turn into a pr1ck after 5 pints????

How many people get violent after a spliff or a pill?????????
Reply



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:52 PM.