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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Default Header tank insulating spacers? And where's SEARCH gone?

Anyone know where else I can get a pair of header tank insulating spacers apart from Carl Davey, who seems to be out of action, or at least not replying to emails lately?

I would have done a search but it seems that basic forum function has disappeared now unless I pay £5, assuming I have understood it correctly? If that's the case I predict a lot more newbie threads about the same topics over and over again if you have to pay to use search... still at least no-one will ever be able to moan at newbie's because they didn't do a search beforehand LOL

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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e-mail me your address mate and I will cut off a bit of Tufnol for you and you can make your own. Either two washers or a single strip with two holes.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Yep your right about the search, but it is £5 for 10 years so not too bad
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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I've got a set I don't need PM me if you want them.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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I made my own, and have measured the benefit (before the manifold was 20C hotter by the exp tank than on the opposite side, after it was exactly the same), make sure you insulate between tank and manifold and between tank and under bolt head, as about 1/3 the heat goes through the bolt, don't by the silly ones with the highly conductive brass inserts and nylon (which itself isn't much of an insulator), I used Tuffnol for mine, 3mm - 4 washers and I was sorted.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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As above, there is no point if you are just going to bolt straight through.

You can either do it top hat style so that there is no soak through the bolt, or make it completely seperate like i have done.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Great stuff as usual, many thanks!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by p1mark
As above, there is no point if you are just going to bolt straight through.

You can either do it top hat style so that there is no soak through the bolt, or make it completely seperate like i have done.

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By eck, that cilit bang is good stuff!!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Cilit Bang and the dirt is gone! LOL.
Now read this with a stupidly deep and annoyingly loud voice
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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What exactly is Tuffnel BTW, I thought he used to play cricket for England,lol..!?

Secondly, where can I get some..?

I've used fiber washers on my header, but they're not really thick enough..!

Longer bolts would help too..

Mark, where did you get the bits for your setup, I take it you fabricated them yourself..? Finally, does it not matter that the 'side' bolt/nut no longer lines up with your setup..?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Carl Davey sells some very good ones for a very reasonable price
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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What exactly is Tuffnel BTW, I thought he used to play cricket for England,lol..!?

Secondly, where can I get some..?

I've used fiber washers on my header, but they're not really thick enough..!

Longer bolts would help too..

Mark, where did you get the bits for your setup, I take it you fabricated them yourself..? Finally, does it not matter that the 'side' bolt/nut no longer lines up with your setup..?
Tuffnol is a heat resistant material, plastic based thet smells like wood when you machine it. You can drill and tap it just like any contemporary ally/steel etc.

You can get it from any engineering suppliers. RS components sell it in strips just the right size. The stuff i have used is not tuffnol, it's similiar but a higher heat resistant spec.

Yes i made mine myself, i'm lucky enough to have easy access to materials and bolts etc. I have not found the need for the side bolt, If i did i would have just made a little bracket.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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P1 Mark has a very neat solution there and clearly worth copying. As well as insulating the header tank from the manifold, I then insulated the socket cap screws I used from the header tank itself to prevent further heat transfer.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonius

Secondly, where can I get some..?
Not trying to steal the tread but I`m after some too. Can anyone help us out, it`ll save me going round local engineering places and not really knowing what I`m talking about. I`m looking for the finished product. Or if anyone wants to make `em up for me I`d be happy to pay.


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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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As mentioned earlier Carl makes them, lots of good bits on his site actually
He is however away on 2 weeks holiday at the moment.

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P1 Mark - are you still using the original MAF sensor ? If so then I don't recommend mounting them to the engine as the additional vibration will surely cause an early death for the maf and possibly engine

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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Thanks Andy, I`ll wait till Carl get back from hos hols.



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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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These are usually in stock at Roger Clark Motorsport along with header gaskets if people are having difficulty contacting Carl.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
As mentioned earlier Carl makes them, lots of good bits on his site actually
He is however away on 2 weeks holiday at the moment.

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Are these suitable for newages as well
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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OK I'm going to hang on for Carl to get back then. Thanks for all the input on this thread, seems to have got some interest going in these again! Maybe Carl can do us a group buy once he's back? All his other bits and pieces have been good quality items so far.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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i'd be interested in a group buy, had his spacers b4 they were excellent quality
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by satpink
i'd be interested in a group buy, had his spacers b4 they were excellent quality

me to
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Depending on what New Age Ian there should not be fitting issues but check it out with Matt Clark who will know exactly from the ones he has fitted.
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Thanks once again Harvey
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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I'd be definitely up for a GB, can someone leave a message for Carl to see if he's interested when he gets back..?
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Originally Posted by Andy.F

P1 Mark - are you still using the original MAF sensor ? If so then I don't recommend mounting them to the engine as the additional vibration will surely cause an early death for the maf and possibly engine

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What bit is this in ref to..?
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Originally Posted by jasonius
What bit is this in ref to..?
think andy means, where the intake pipe that joins onto the maf sensor, it is bolted to the header tank.

may be wrong though?
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Ahh, thought that might be it..
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Just posted this in Group Buy section:

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...ml#post7092295
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F

Carls Scooby Site ver.2

P1 Mark - are you still using the original MAF sensor ? If so then I don't recommend mounting them to the engine as the additional vibration will surely cause an early death for the maf and possibly engine

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Cheers for the heads up Andy.

Yes, i am still on O.E ECU. The filter is wedged solidly against the wing though. It has been like this for 2 years now without any problems on the same MAF - You have just reminded me i really should change it.

I had far more problems with the MAF sensor with O.E airbox and filter than what i have ever had with induction kit as pictured.
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Just spoke to RCM and its not something they offer or can supply

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