at least they didnt kill anyone this time......



just shot one in the shoulder, ripped their homes apart and interrogated them for a week

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5066166.stm

What was the 2 brothers crimes?

 

Ownership of a rucksack? Fasting during daylight hours with intent to subvert the British government?

 

Can't fault the police/mi5/6, they have to act on information given to them, what happens if they don't and hundreds of people die because they don't want to upset certain minorities by not doing anything?

I agree with it 100%

I do think they could have gone about it in a better way though.

 

but what if it was the other way around?? they did have bombs and maps were they were planning to bomb etc?? then what would you say?? they were only going off what they have been told?? i feel happier knowing they checked it out dont you??

 

It cant be too hard to verify the 'intelligence' though can it?

Bug the house....

tap the lines....

break in when nobody is there and scan for bomb making residues..

Should have a fairly good idea by then.



what did these guys do wrong?

or the poor chap they killed totally unnecessarily on the underground...

another 'intelligence' screw up

Not much sympathy for the innocent victims of the so-called intelligence?

 

I suppose the real question is: Who gave the Police the "specific intelligence" and what action is being taken against those individuals?

 

What, even if that was you?

 

BOB'5...nice to hear a reasoned response on SN..I thought the blinkered folk had taken over scoobynet..nice 1 mate!

 

Innocent people were shot, during the years of IRA terrorism why did no one complain about them?

 

Hey up here comes KOT's red herring. People did complain then only same as now no-one was listening!

 

FFS

Let us not start me down the road of my usual 13 years in the Army blah blah blah, is it

In a world where the people trying to kill you are indistiguishable from everyone else in the street, mistakes happen, get over it

 

Careful, ERA.... you run the risk of being branded a "tit".

 

I've been branded worse! Fortunately my shoulders are broad enough to carry the burden.

 

What if a member of your family had been killed in 9/11 or the London bombs would you still have the same response?

We now live in a very different world than we did 5 years ago, the sooner people wake up to this the better.

Every lead should be followed up and if it upsets people then tuff ****

 

He is now officially a tit

 

I have officially been 'Tittified'. I feel hallowed to be put in the same esteem as Bubba.

 

As a muslim I feel the police must go on the info they get, but when they do get it wrong as they have in this case and some others; instead of justifying their actions they should accompany their statement with a public apology and I feel that would make a world of difference in the attitude towards the incident. The issue here I feel is the fact that none of the government ministers or other authorities ever admit that they got anything wrong, its always some one elses fault!

Naz.

 

Bloody hell common sense in NSR, I feel ill

 

so what your saying is do fu*k all and leave it?? bollocks check anyone who may or not be a risk simple as that come into the real world mate thats why these ******** are bombing us, coz people like you say they are ok. if your innocent then you can prove it if not well than tough ****. death penalty in my eyes they deserve it.

 

Oh come now Daisy! Don't be so bloody melodramatic, the world is full thankfully of level headed, fair and honest folk. Sure you will get the few crankpots hellbent on causing havoc to all and sundry but they are outnumbered even here on Snet. Some of the most intelligent, articulate and funny people can be found within the realms of this community OUR community. Now go have a brandy and chill!

 

You may be clever. But I'm Royalty

 

The WORLD might be, but NSR certainly ain't.

 

Be ready, you may be called on to exercise your royal duties for the adoring public.

 

Tis true alack! God dealt us our respective hands and now we must play them to the best of our abilities.

 

2 things:

1. You don't seem to have a basic grasp of the British Law (innocent until proven guilty)

2. How long did the guy get to prove he was innocent before they shot him? Was there a trial?


Don't think you would have the same attitude/stance if you were at the harsh end of the stick.

 

If you really ARE innocent until you are proven guilty, how could anyone ever be arrested? The mere suspicion infringes the individual's rights.

 

so your saying leave it they look innocent?? they may of been innocent but they didnt know that did they?? back to what i said what if they werent innocent it would of been a diferant story then?? and as for 2) thats stupidity on your side there was obviously a scuffle what would you do?? bearing in mind you are raiding a terrorist suspects house!! and we all know how they like to plant bombs to there bodys!! one word idiot always proceed with caution.

 

No we dont. Nothing has changed from my point of view. I cannot understand all these ppl who won't fly anymore or won't go to London etc.

Things happen. If 9/11 had happened in a third world country then nobody would have given a toss.

Long term were more at risk from global warming than terrorists who have killed very few if you look at the big picture of things. The US has a lot to answer for.

Chip

 

Yeah terrible - next time the Police should wait until theyve carried out a bombing first, then arrest

I back their actions 100% - they have a difficult job, and are dealing with a very unco-operative lot remember, so they have to go on what info they can get - the community are hardly likely to tip-off the Police about terrorists.

I also feel sorry for the Police having to go in and arrest these people - they are up against people who have a different view on life to us - they arent afraid of dying in many cases.

And these people arrested may well not be innocent, its just they dont have enough evidence to charge them.

 

Bugatti has hit the nail right on the head-well said.

Les