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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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Sorry for being ignorant folks, but can someone tell me the difference between a down pipe and an up pipe!!!
I have a down pipe so am aware of the differences but don't know what an up pipe is.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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The uppipe connects from the exhaust headers (collector) to the exhaust inlet on the turbo (the downpipe being connected to the exhaust outlet on the turbo).

The std uppipe is a cast jobbie and is know to cause both turbulence and restriction as well as having a tendency to split at high boost. Replacement uppipes are stainless steel tubes which essentially stabilise the gas flow into the turbo which has several positive effects.

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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Any downsides to it then??
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Not really, and it will prevent the cat from potentially breaking into pieces and ending up in the turbo as can happen on higher boost levels.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Thanks for your replies guys.
Ed, I think the newer shapes have a cat here, mine is the classic, pretty sure no cat in that pipe.
Can I get an up pipe for the old shape turbo??????
If so I think there will be a wanted thread by the afternoon.
Anyone know which brand to go for?? Which are the best??
Any idea of cost for these on a classic???
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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Whilst the New Age cars have a Cat and a Lambda sensor in the uppipe the actual size and fitting is identical to the classic uppipe.

You can fit pretty much any replacement uppipe to a classic, the H&S has a pretty good reputation as does the MRT one although this is a lot more expensive, Jamie Whitfield has just started selling an uppipe made by Magnex which although listed as being for the STi7 should fit a classic no problem and is probably the cheapest of the bunch at around £80.

You will have to fit a bung to the lambda boss (or use it for an EGT probe).

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Andrew, many thanks for your reply. Great info.
Will I have to get something welded into the hole as a bung, I take it I couldn't use a rubber one due to high temperatures!!
What is an EGT thingy??? Is one of these useful?
And finally, where in Lancashire are you?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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I'm around Preston.

I'm picking up a used H&S Uppipe on Wednesday so I'll be able to tell you what the thread in the Lambda boss is then (about 11mm), a Stainless Steel Bolt would be best I think (although I'm fitting an EGT sensor).

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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I live in Leyland!!!
Just bought a pad in Croston, moving in at the weekend. Only 10 mins from you by the sounds of it. What a coincidence!!!!
Can you tell me what the EGT bit is..
When you have it fitted, perhaps you could mail me and let me know what you reckon..
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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EGT = Exhaust Gas Temp.
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