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Old 14 February 2014, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
Wouldn't it come under the same rules as the cat , if it was fitted to the car at manufacture it has to be there for the test (if u get my drift) ?

Just saying its not on a different model of Subaru doesn't sound that great TBF.
Yeah they were saying manufacturers dont spend money fitting things unless they have to. So it had one fitted, there wasnt one fitted when they tested it. So fail.

Fingers fooking crossed they will retest it tomoz and pass it!
Old 14 February 2014, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
if it had no cat it would fail emissions test so not really
It has the cat in the downpipe. It passed lol
Old 14 February 2014, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
Wouldn't it come under the same rules as the cat , if it was fitted to the car at manufacture it has to be there for the test (if u get my drift) ?
That is exactly it, And just to clear up any confusion It was only the Bug Spec-C RA that didn't come with the front u-frame, All other newage Imprezas have them as standard including the blob/hawk spec c too
Old 14 February 2014, 12:54 AM
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Just go to a different MOT centre...
Old 14 February 2014, 01:34 AM
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As Gaz said blob/ hawk spec c do come with subframe.

The reason is not to increase stiffness but in case of a frontal accident to pull the engine and gearbox down and under passenger rather than allowing into cabin space.
Old 14 February 2014, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickya
As Gaz said blob/ hawk spec c do come with subframe.

The reason is not to increase stiffness but in case of a frontal accident to pull the engine and gearbox down and under passenger rather than allowing into cabin space.
Is it not a good thing that mine is rusty as **** then ? The **** will fall out of my front end and the engine will fly down the road away from me in an accident !
Old 14 February 2014, 08:47 AM
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Its being retested as i type!

fingers foooooking crossed!
Old 14 February 2014, 12:31 PM
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its passed! thanks ****!

tex said "missing ! subframe inappropriately repaired"
Old 14 February 2014, 12:51 PM
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....but it passed which means you can take it off again now, Pmsl
Old 14 February 2014, 01:15 PM
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Sod that... selling the car tomorrow!
Old 15 February 2014, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
Where did u get the replacement ?
Davy murray.
Old 15 February 2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
Sod that... selling the car tomorrow!
Hope you make some profit after all your effort!
Old 15 February 2014, 11:22 PM
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Well, it sold. I dont thing i made a profit, but got what i have put in back i think!
Obv bar running the thing fuel etc lol

Not got a clue what to replace it with tho. Idea was to get something cheap to run, at least 40mpg and cheap road tax to free up some cash so i can finish the house!

But things like that are a bit poo... I think im just going to have to be sensible for a bit, but ill be bored after a day!
Old 15 February 2014, 11:51 PM
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Mine passed mot today without it.
Old 15 February 2014, 11:52 PM
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Yawn ...
Man the **** up
Old 16 February 2014, 12:19 AM
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It's either there or it's not
Preference or not
...... Please people .....
It's a cradle designed for suppression
Take it as u will
I here challenge anybody to conform it is a crash related infastructure
... It's primary function is to dampen engine to chassis vibration
End off
I personally have searched hi & lo to find a definitive answer ...
Only 1 official subaru video came up
& it revealed the info structure was indeed a cradle for engine / chassis / damping
The video is on here
Use your search
Ps
No offence intended
Old 16 February 2014, 12:24 AM
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Mine doesn't have one from factory MOT tester is a bellend I removed one from my previous SpecD as well and it always passed, even at proper MOT stations lol
Old 16 February 2014, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 53
Mine doesn't have one from factory MOT tester is a bellend I removed one from my previous SpecD as well and it always passed, even at proper MOT stations lol
Yup third mot without it by two different garages.
Nothing ever mentioned at all.
Old 16 February 2014, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
It's either there or it's not
Preference or not
...... Please people .....
It's a cradle designed for suppression
Take it as u will
I here challenge anybody to conform it is a crash related infastructure
... It's primary function is to dampen engine to chassis vibration
End off
I personally have searched hi & lo to find a definitive answer ...
Only 1 official subaru video came up
& it revealed the info structure was indeed a cradle for engine / chassis / damping
The video is on here
Use your search
Ps
No offence intended
It is not just for damping.

Old 16 February 2014, 08:12 PM
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Is that the same thats fitted to our cars though ? Its 2009 and he says it's "new" , or is it just new to the Outback ?
Old 16 February 2014, 09:41 PM
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I'm sure it's been documented on 22b that it's also something to do with directing the engine/box under the car as opposed to into the cabin. I'd guess it's the same principle regardless of design or model

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Old 17 February 2014, 01:58 AM
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Nice find Rickya
That cradle looks & is nothing like the newage cradle
Hey , no sweat if I'm wrong
But come on , how can a 3 sided square be a safety feature
ESP as it's integrity is the leading edge , & that will be destroyed on frontal impact
Nice try tho
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Well I took mine off a couple of months ago and it looks pretty much identical to that bar the centre cross member that the engine sits on which is part of what it's bolted to. think I might be putting mine back on.
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Nice find Rickya
That cradle looks & is nothing like the newage cradle
Hey , no sweat if I'm wrong
But come on , how can a 3 sided square be a safety feature
ESP as it's integrity is the leading edge , & that will be destroyed on frontal impact
Nice try tho
Each to their own I suppose, but the facts are there.
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It's mad how some of you are proud that you managed to fudge the mot for a car which potentially could be carrying a loved one. It's there for a reason but then if you save a little weight who cares hey, tell that to your loved one when they have a flat four on there lap. And if it's rusted then buy another.
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Originally Posted by wrx271
It's mad how some of you are proud that you managed to fudge the mot for a car which potentially could be carrying a loved one. It's there for a reason but then if you save a little weight who cares hey, tell that to your loved one when they have a flat four on there lap. And if it's rusted then buy another.
wtf are you talking about?, no fudging involved, mine has passed an mot without it for 3 years.

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Old 17 February 2014, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx271
It's mad how some of you are proud that you managed to fudge the mot for a car which potentially could be carrying a loved one. It's there for a reason but then if you save a little weight who cares hey, tell that to your loved one when they have a flat four on there lap. And if it's rusted then buy another.
After looking at the Video it isnt the same part as people have removed,
It looks like the early versions were a U shape and seperate but the one in the video is all part of the cross member,
If it was so dangerous if removed why would they sell the Spec C without it in the early days when they were already fitting them to other models ?

Im trying to work out how holding the engine and gearbox up is helping, Id have thought it dropping down and crumpling may be safe then a sedge pushing it all back towards my feet.



just my 2p worth
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
wtf are you talking about?, no fudging involved, mine has passed an mot without it for 3 years.
You know what I'm talking about otherwise you wouldn't have reacted the way you did. It's the way you in particular jump about saying how great your mot guy/guys are for passing your mot for the last 3 years. I'd be worried about what they didn't notice.


That's wtf I'm talking about
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Originally Posted by wrx271
You know what I'm talking about otherwise you wouldn't have reacted the way you did. It's the way you in particular jump about saying how great your mot guy/guys are for passing your mot for the last 3 years. I'd be worried about what they didn't notice.


That's wtf I'm talking about
I'm not worried at all. A lot have people have removed them with no issues at all.
Its easy to replace if you need to and its even open to debate as to what its purpose is.
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Originally Posted by wrx271
It's mad how some of you are proud that you managed to fudge the mot for a car which potentially could be carrying a loved one. It's there for a reason but then if you save a little weight who cares hey, tell that to your loved one when they have a flat four on there lap. And if it's rusted then buy another.
Classics don't have them nor do some special edition models


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