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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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It's a tricky one, the trouble is we do like to interfere with nature. It might sound horrible but if there's not enough food and water to support x amount of people why add an artificial dimension to the problem giving hope and allowing the population to grow.

Back in the 80's I remember my dad saying "just drop a load of condoms on them, why do they have 5 kids if they're watching people starve around them"

What has really changed? It does make me wonder who is the real winner in all this. But it sure as hell isn't people living in a sort of third world benefit support system.

It's one thing stepping in to help with medical care for children 30 years ago, but creating a situation of ongoing support which effectively perpetuates the problem?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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They'd still need water and even playing field for food markets if they produced a child each or 35, ffs

As stated, there's no nhs / dole handouts for all, you've got to provide it yourself - Which requires somebody younger And fitter to provide
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Nice to see this thread hasn't got any better since I last looked
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Its a harsh reality David. Would I like the world to be happy and rosey and full of love and flowers? Yes, of course I would. Am I naive enough to think that we can pull them up to anything like that level, or even to be able to eat and drink clean water, no Im not.

With regards to your Hitler jibe: it makes you look like a fool.
So sorry I must have got my history wrong. There was me believing that Hitler wanted to exterminate some races and ethnic groups such as gypsies and blacks along with the Jews. So your statement "Itd be no bad thing is swathes of the third worlds population were oblitered without trace" seemed to me one that Hitler would have been proud of. Please explain why you called me a fool for stating the f,ucking obvious.

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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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But there is a LOT of difference between someone setting out to exterminate a people and us allowing nature to take it's course, instead of interfering, encouraging the people to breed faster, and so the problem shifts a few years along the line? Isn't there?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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But there is a LOT of difference between someone setting out to exterminate a people and us allowing nature to take it's course, instead of interfering, encouraging the people to breed faster, and so the problem shifts a few years along the line? Isn't there?
Your posts are getting more and more random.

By your logic, when someone gets ill, instead of trying to make them well again, we should just 'let nature take its course'!!
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
The statement 'charity begins at home' is virtually never used by people that actually give to charity.

It's basically the mantra of the selfish and mean spirited - charity may well begin at home, and indeed it overwhelming does, but it doesn't end there.
Well said.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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That duck egg Cameron is that intent on throwing our money at lost causes abroad he can't even be bothered to help the needy in the UK. Instead he attends the scene to gloat and to do nothing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1187340/an...-david-cameron
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Well said.
How's your space programme coming along?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
That duck egg Cameron is that intent on throwing our money at lost causes abroad he can't even be bothered to help the needy in the UK. Instead he attends the scene to gloat and to do nothing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1187340/an...-david-cameron
She chose to live somewhere close to the edge, as it were....and now we're expected to feel sorry for her. She clearly made no provision for the inevitable .

More power to Daves elbow i say.


You just can't believe the whinge level of our nations inhabitants

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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
That duck egg Cameron is that intent on throwing our money at lost causes abroad he can't even be bothered to help the needy in the UK. Instead he attends the scene to gloat and to do nothing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1187340/an...-david-cameron
What are you on? That aricle appears to be about some woman who seems to think council workers shouldn't have holidays just in case the town floods. Wtf?!
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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How's your space programme coming along?
Stop trolling me, halfhead.

You trolled me on LSherratt's thread as well.

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...lay-shoot.html

I did not comment on your post on this thread nor on LSheratt's thread. So, do one.

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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Stop trolling me, halfhead.

You trolled me on LSherratt's thread as well.

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...lay-shoot.html

I did not comment on your post on this thread nor on LSheratt's thread. So, do one.
You're getting paranoid.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
The statement 'charity begins at home' is virtually never used by people that actually give to charity.

It's basically the mantra of the selfish and mean spirited - charity may well begin at home, and indeed it overwhelming does, but it doesn't end there.
You obviously never saw my other post, I do give to charities one of them is unicef. Now I know unicef do work all over the world but much of the info I've received images of black children which I presume rightly or wrongly are African, My personal experiences with the increasing African community in my area are not good.
I have found them lazy, rude and unwilling or unable to participate in anything. Now I know that is prejudiced and I normally give people the benefit of the doubt but Ive had enough bad experiences. I no longer want to support Africa, the culture wont change therefore its a waste of money. Africa is a bottomless pit and a lost cause IMO

I give money to cancer research, UNICEF and several animal charities. I also do volunteer work and received a nice recognition award last year for services given. The little money I give to UNICEF is going to go to the Sally army, they look after our own.

You can call me Saint Edsel or Adolf Edsel either way I aint no hypocrite.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
What are you on? That aricle appears to be about some woman who seems to think council workers shouldn't have holidays just in case the town floods. Wtf?!
What are you on Wtf? A few years ago I worked in utilities and was regularly called out on Christmas day. Just shows how the UK has declined, but we can still afford to throw money at lost causes.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
What are you on? That aricle appears to be about some woman who seems to think council workers shouldn't have holidays just in case the town floods. Wtf?!

Yup, that's right. David Cameron is to blame for floods and Christmas holidays.

F1 Fan will be long in a minute to tell us it's yet another example of how useless politicians are.....
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
She chose to live somewhere close to the edge, as it were....and now we're expected to feel sorry for her. She clearly made no provision for the inevitable .

More power to Daves elbow i say.


You just can't believe the whinge level of our nations inhabitants
Provisions for the inevitable? What, you mean like King Canute
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Your posts are getting more and more random.

By your logic, when someone gets ill, instead of trying to make them well again, we should just 'let nature take its course'!!
Now that really is silly.

Occasionally we have to do that anyway, but yes, one of the UK's and other developed countries' problems is an aging population, brought about by...yes...NOT letting nature take it's course.

We have seen the problem with a population which only averages 2.2 children.

Yet you want us to ignore it and keep alive all those who insist on ten to fifteen children? Or ANY children with no resources?

THEY have the children, why is it our fault? why our responsibility?

Do you believe that the people in the UK who breed as a way of "earning" a living are in the right too?

Now who's random?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Yup, that's right. David Cameron is to blame for floods and Christmas holidays.

F1 Fan will be long in a minute to tell us it's yet another example of how useless politicians are.....
Good job it's only a flood with old people trapped in their homes with no heating or hot food rather than something a lot more serious and you council workers tucked up at home stuffing Christmas pudding down your neck.

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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
That duck egg Cameron is that intent on throwing our money at lost causes abroad he can't even be bothered to help the needy in the UK. Instead he attends the scene to gloat and to do nothing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1187340/an...-david-cameron
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You obviously never saw my other post, I do give to charities one of them is unicef. Now I know unicef do work all over the world but much of the info I've received images of black children which I presume rightly or wrongly are African, My personal experiences with the increasing African community in my area are not good.
I have found them lazy, rude and unwilling or unable to participate in anything. Now I know that is prejudiced and I normally give people the benefit of the doubt but Ive had enough bad experiences. I no longer want to support Africa, the culture wont change therefore its a waste of money. Africa is a bottomless pit and a lost cause IMO

I give money to cancer research, UNICEF and several animal charities. I also do volunteer work and received a nice recognition award last year for services given. The little money I give to UNICEF is going to go to the Sally army, they look after our own.

You can call me Saint Edsel or Adolf Edsel either way I aint no hypocrite.

Are they actually african Edsel...?

I mean this generation
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Main problem is the pope and his policies of non conception
I have relatives in phillipnes and have sent a lot of time studying them
They have a theory that because they are poor they should have lots of children so they can share the costs of looking after them when they get old ,but then they get the handouts from their 2 or three wealthy offsprings ,who normally work overseas the parents then hand half the money back to their poor nieces ,nephews and distant cousins !them they want more money for emergencies as they cant save and live for today amd not tomorrow
Their belief in sex is 'no glove no love ' and its 'gods way' if they get pregnant
The catholic church just can't get a grip on this simple fact that more kids cause poverty and the schools can't teach it neither
Most of Asia have got it so wrong

Yet china is now a very wealthy race and their one child per couple rule has helped get the country back on its feet and make it a strong world power .
Not sure about Africa and conception wherever it is religion or just boredom as there is no TV
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
Main problem is the pope and his policies of non conception
I have relatives in phillipnes and have sent a lot of time studying them
They have a theory that because they are poor they should have lots of children so they can share the costs of looking after them when they get old ,but then they get the handouts from their 2 or three wealthy offsprings ,who normally work overseas the parents then hand half the money back to their poor nieces ,nephews and distant cousins !them they want more money for emergencies as they cant save and live for today amd not tomorrow
Their belief in sex is 'no glove no love ' and its 'gods way' if they get pregnant
The catholic church just can't get a grip on this simple fact that more kids cause poverty and the schools can't teach it neither
Most of Asia have got it so wrong

Yet china is now a very wealthy race and their one child per couple rule has helped get the country back on its feet and make it a strong world power .
Not sure about Africa and conception wherever it is religion or just boredom as there is no TV
The same one child rule that China is getting rid of now you mean?

Poor people have always had as many kids as possible, it has very little to do with the Catholic Church.
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You're getting paranoid.

You need to pipe down a bit, just been looking at some of your posts
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It's a tricky one, the trouble is we do like to interfere with nature. It might sound horrible but if there's not enough food and water to support x amount of people why add an artificial dimension to the problem giving hope and allowing the population to grow.

Back in the 80's I remember my dad saying "just drop a load of condoms on them, why do they have 5 kids if they're watching people starve around them"

What has really changed? It does make me wonder who is the real winner in all this. But it sure as hell isn't people living in a sort of third world benefit support system.

It's one thing stepping in to help with medical care for children 30 years ago, but creating a situation of ongoing support which effectively perpetuates the problem?
Gotta burn the village to save the village right?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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You need to pipe down a bit, just been looking at some of your posts
Are you a stalker?
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Are you a stalker?
He has a point though, you are trying to inflame a situation with Swati on a racial basis. That's not a pleasant or a sensible thing to do! Wind your neck in would be my advice!
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Personally I find the Bingo adverts even more annoying than sponsor a dolphin.
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I hate bingo.

It's the preserve of fat wimmins with flabby arms, few teeth, 100 Park Drive a day habit and an aroma of 10 day old ammonia.
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Good job it's only a flood with old people trapped in their homes with no heating or hot food rather than something a lot more serious and you council workers tucked up at home stuffing Christmas pudding down your neck.

I don't work for the council and I don't like Christmas pudding.
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
Personally I find the Bingo adverts even more annoying than sponsor a dolphin.
This is something else that needs addressed TBH. All the gambling bingo/bookies etc ads on TV.

If it's not people getting you to try and donate your money to some sh1te hole corrupt country abroad its bingo/bookies/gambling ads on TV here trying to get you to part your ways with your cash, a bit like my local town center TBH, full of bookies, second hand shops and cash converters...
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