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Old 23 December 2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
i cant open the link, but i thought the impreza was the best handling sub £25k car money could buy??

This is the problem that the Impreza has, people get behind the wheel and automatically think they're ******* invincible.

Then something goes wrong and they run out of talent very quickly.
Old 23 December 2013, 01:33 PM
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This ^^^^

seen some real knobjockey's driving them like they are in a rally, even seen a white classic drift around a roundabout on the A1 at Biggleswade
Old 23 December 2013, 01:51 PM
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Sad sad story, only the Astra driver will know what happened, racing each other on the limit is only going to end in tears.
Feel sorry for all families involved.
Old 23 December 2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow
This ^^^^

seen some real knobjockey's driving them like they are in a rally, even seen a white classic drift around a roundabout on the A1 at Biggleswade
Look, don't get me wrong, we've all done silly things.
I would hold me hands up to a bit of fun in all my Impreza's, including roundabout antics - but only ever on a clear road.

I like to think I can drive a bit, and have done many rallying events in the past.
Put it this way, I know exactly what I shouldn't ever do on a public road.
Old 23 December 2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Look, don't get me wrong, we've all done silly things.
I would hold me hands up to a bit of fun in all my Impreza's, including roundabout antics - but only ever on a clear road.

I like to think I can drive a bit, and have done many rallying events in the past.
Put it this way, I know exactly what I shouldn't ever do on a public road.

Urban, that was not directed at you FTR
Old 23 December 2013, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow
I guess as 60mph might not leave the car looking like that..

a presumption by Pigman149....
Presumptions and assumptions are bread and butter for newspapers and what help condemn scooby drivers to the ranks of undesirables.
Two vehicles in a head on at 60mph each="well over 100mph" as well
Old 23 December 2013, 02:51 PM
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No it don't, 2 cars hit at 60 mph head on is the same as hitting a solid wall at 60

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Old 23 December 2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
No it don't, 2 cars hit at 60 mph head on is the same as hitting a solid wall at 60
If the solid wall is doing 60 mph towards you...impact speed would be 120mph
Old 23 December 2013, 03:05 PM
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The closing speed would be 120 mph yes, but the damage caused to each car would be the same as if they hit a solid wall at 60 mph
Old 23 December 2013, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
No it don't, 2 cars hit at 60 mph head on is the same as hitting a solid wall at 60
Little wonder you assumed the dead driver was well over the ton
Old 23 December 2013, 03:08 PM
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Explain ?
Old 23 December 2013, 03:15 PM
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No
Old 23 December 2013, 03:16 PM
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It would be like hitting a solid wall doing 120mph...Get someone to slap you standing still and then ask them to slap you again but this time throw your face into the slap
Old 23 December 2013, 03:18 PM
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Wrong. Did you do science at school
Old 23 December 2013, 03:23 PM
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Type into YouTube. Mythbusters head on collision. They explain it better than I would
Old 23 December 2013, 03:36 PM
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Your turn
Old 23 December 2013, 03:39 PM
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lol...it's been a long time since I went to school...I see your point (force = mass x acceleration)...although they did hit a lorry
Old 23 December 2013, 03:40 PM
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^^^^^ This is true ^^^^^ "Every action has an equal and oppsite reaction" So like hitting a wall at 60. Either way not nice...

RIP to the people involved.
The papers saying nitros was involved is just a crappy way to link these deaths to the "Fast and Furious" deaths of Paul Walker and the culture that it depicts.
People will still lap it up and the left wing numpties will have all cars with more power than a golf cart banned blah blah blah

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Old 23 December 2013, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
Type into YouTube. Mythbusters head on collision. They explain it better than I would
Interesting.... I would have thought that the combined speed would have caused more damage, but as explained at the end of the video, the combined speed/damage is shared between the mass of the 2 vehicles involved, hence damage consistent with a 50mph collision with a solid wall.
Old 23 December 2013, 04:17 PM
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Horrible news, my thoughts are with their families. Sounds like an early classic racing with an astra the silly boys. But we've all done silly things, and luckily live to tell the tale.
With the price of early classics so low now, and them being quicker than anything else for £1k things like this are inevitable.
Old 23 December 2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
The closing speed would be 120 mph yes, but the damage caused to each car would be the same as if they hit a solid wall at 60 mph
Spot on! Basic physcis!
Old 23 December 2013, 04:55 PM
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RIP
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That's surely where the masses are near equal. There is a significant mass differential between a 40ton lorry at 60mph and a 1.4 tonne Subaru.

This is why a car at 40mph has a head on with a fly doing 40mph has not enough mass to de-accelerate the Car and will result in the Fly going splat as if he'd hit a wall at 80mph

IMHO


RIP & Condolences got their families

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Old 23 December 2013, 05:11 PM
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horrid thing to happen

trouble is because 2 people in the Astra have been arrested until it all comes out in court we may never know what actually happened and with all things like this it is Chinese whispers as to what went on.......

nothing to do with this accident but there was a terrible accident in Swindon earlier this year where 2 girls lost there lives and then it came out in court that the driver had been drinking and the passenger had her legs out of the window showing off etc and none of this was known or said at the time so Chinese whispers...
Old 23 December 2013, 05:14 PM
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Should have bought an STi
Old 23 December 2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 53
Should have bought an STi
Ouch!
Old 23 December 2013, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nikon-man
horrid thing to happen

trouble is because 2 people in the Astra have been arrested until it all comes out in court we may never know what actually happened and with all things like this it is Chinese whispers as to what went on.......

nothing to do with this accident but there was a terrible accident in Swindon earlier this year where 2 girls lost there lives and then it came out in court that the driver had been drinking and the passenger had her legs out of the window showing off etc and none of this was known or said at the time so Chinese whispers...
She also stood on the brakes for no reason causing the car to skid and it was then that she lost control and left the road hitting trees and rolling the car etc.

Im near swindon too bud
Old 23 December 2013, 06:07 PM
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They might of been on the way to pod for the
Paul walker tribute to do a burnout, but were a bit early...

Soo many bad jokes....
Old 23 December 2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
The closing speed would be 120 mph yes, but the damage caused to each car would be the same as if they hit a solid wall at 60 mph
Newtons law of physics

Every action has an opposite and equal reaction
Old 23 December 2013, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 53
Should have bought an STi
I doubt you would be saying this if someone you knew was in that car...


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