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Old May 16, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Getting there, just waiting on parts, decided to paint with VHT spray cans. Will update soon
I went with these mate http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2908803510...84.m1497.l2648

But! I recently sprayed a manifold with VHT Metalic paint that I got from halfords that has a slight sparkle to it.....

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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Very, errrrr, red.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Very, errrrr, red.
Lol, sparkly too
http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/kw...ml?sort=3&o=15
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Old May 16, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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Did you use primmer and laquer?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:23 PM
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I'm doing mine too, started like this....






It literally took me hours to get the seized and rusted pistons out of these buggers!!!!!!!!!



Here is one caliper stripped right back and then primed for painting...











...and finally painted up ready for their new seal kits and pistons

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Old May 17, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Did you use primmer and laquer?
Yes mate.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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Ok thats great. Nice job Cliff how you strip paint off?
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Old May 17, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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I used my Dremel on the 1st one with a sanding bit, then I stopped mucking about and used Nitromors on the second, took a fraction of the time
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Old May 21, 2013 | 01:21 AM
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Nitromors you say hmmmm never heard of the stuff but youtube videos look good
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Old May 21, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Good stuff Nitromors just don't get it on your skin, starts off a cool tingle then the burning starts soon after. Good luck on the refurb Jay I need to do mine soon.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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You can get nitromors in B&Q , its quite expensive though , it will get paint off but not rust
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Old May 21, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Strip them right back and soak in a bucket of brick acid for a couple of days. Rinse off and give a quick wire brush. A cheap way of de-rusting them
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Old May 24, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Brick acid there's and new one, thanks firez should have updates soon
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Old May 25, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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I'm about to order a refurb kit to do this but how do you get the pistons out when they are off the car?
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Old May 25, 2013 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes
Its easy enough if your mechanically minded , we sell loads of piston and seal kits for owners to do it themselves
Cheers Ian
how much are the kits for the Brembo calipers front and rear ?
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Davec30
I'm about to order a refurb kit to do this but how do you get the pistons out when they are off the car?
Pump the pistons out as much as you can while they are still on the car.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Pump the pistons out as much as you can while they are still on the car.
Thought that might be the answer but they are off the car as I bought them off eBay. The ones on my car are the two different types( one is embossed the other is a subaru sticker....don't ask!!) There are two pistons that just won't move.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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I put mine in a vice and tapped each piston one tape each side, keep swaping sides
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Old May 29, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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How is the refurb going jay
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Sorry for late update been very busy.

Pistons have now arrived, so has paint.



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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Nice and shiny where did you get them from in the end?

Thanks
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Currently doing this myself. Stripped the calipers down now and removed all but one of the pistons on the pair.

The cheapest and most effective rust removal: ELECTROLYSIS

Yes it looks dangerous but i have done it to caliper's and all sorts of car parts. Work's a treat

1:Get a plastic tub large enough to fit the item you want derusting, and can be fully submersed in water.

2: Find a piece of Steel or Iron (not stainless as gives off highly toxic fumes) to use as a sacrificial anode

3: Fill tub with water and add a granny's measure off Soda crystal's ( Get it from Tesco's in a green bag) next to the washing up stuff. So it's deep enough for said item to be de-rusted.

4: Take 1 brake caliper half, Attach the negative end of a battery charger or battery with leads attached, to the brake caliper ( or said item to be derusted) then submerse into the water/soda solution.

5: attach the positive lead to the sacrificial anode (Steel bar or iron work's fine paint free and clean as possible for good connection). Then submerse that into the opposite side of the tub !!!! DO NOT LET THE ANODE AND THE BRAKE CALIPER TOUCH !!!! WILL SHORT THE SYSTEM AND BLOW A FUSE OR WORSE, OR COULD MAKE A BATTERY EXPLODE

6: Do it in a well ventilated area as gases such as hydrogen are emmited from the process.

Once all the above is set up, double check the water is well and truly covering the rusted item. add more soda crystals if you like, makes me feel like it was working better.

DOUBLE CHECK THE ANODE AND BRAKE CALIPER FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOT TOUCHING AND HAVE A FEW CM'S BETWEEN THEM.

Make sure anyone around the house or garage is aware of the set up and know's not to touch,move or close door's or window's etc for ventilation

Finally, press the switch, so battery charger fires up or other end of negative lead if it's a battery by itself. Leave for a few hours, constantly checking.

Say 6 hour's later, admire your handywork.

Rotate the rusted item if you wish so it get's even rust removal attracted to the Anode. ( Do this with the power off and in a well ventilated place)

Will post up pic's of how my caliper's came out afterwards.

ENJOY, Best of all, no mess or black bogies!!!
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by quattroowner
Currently doing this myself. Stripped the calipers down now and removed all but one of the pistons on the pair.

The cheapest and most effective rust removal: ELECTROLYSIS

Yes it looks dangerous but i have done it to caliper's and all sorts of car parts. Work's a treat

1:Get a plastic tub large enough to fit the item you want derusting, and can be fully submersed in water.

2: Find a piece of Steel or Iron (not stainless as gives off highly toxic fumes) to use as a sacrificial anode

3: Fill tub with water and add a granny's measure off Soda crystal's ( Get it from Tesco's in a green bag) next to the washing up stuff. So it's deep enough for said item to be de-rusted.

4: Take 1 brake caliper half, Attach the negative end of a battery charger or battery with leads attached, to the brake caliper ( or said item to be derusted) then submerse into the water/soda solution.

5: attach the positive lead to the sacrificial anode (Steel bar or iron work's fine paint free and clean as possible for good connection). Then submerse that into the opposite side of the tub !!!! DO NOT LET THE ANODE AND THE BRAKE CALIPER TOUCH !!!! WILL SHORT THE SYSTEM AND BLOW A FUSE OR WORSE, OR COULD MAKE A BATTERY EXPLODE

6: Do it in a well ventilated area as gases such as hydrogen are emmited from the process.

Once all the above is set up, double check the water is well and truly covering the rusted item. add more soda crystals if you like, makes me feel like it was working better.

DOUBLE CHECK THE ANODE AND BRAKE CALIPER FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOT TOUCHING AND HAVE A FEW CM'S BETWEEN THEM.

Make sure anyone around the house or garage is aware of the set up and know's not to touch,move or close door's or window's etc for ventilation

Finally, press the switch, so battery charger fires up or other end of negative lead if it's a battery by itself. Leave for a few hours, constantly checking.

Say 6 hour's later, admire your handywork.

Rotate the rusted item if you wish so it get's even rust removal attracted to the Anode. ( Do this with the power off and in a well ventilated place)

Will post up pic's of how my caliper's came out afterwards.

ENJOY, Best of all, no mess or black bogies!!!
You forgot the disclaimer at the end if this that you take no responsibility for any deaths or injuries
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I TAKE NO RESPONSINILTY FOR ANY DIM WITTED INDIVIDUALS WHO MANAGE TO BUGGER ANYTHING UP RELATED TO MY ABOVE POST. ANY DEATH'S OR DAMAGE ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. PLEASE ONLY ATTEMPT THE ABOVE IF YOU HAVE ANY MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE AND A SAFE WORKING ENVIROMENT.

phew !!
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by quattroowner
I TAKE NO RESPONSINILTY FOR ANY DIM WITTED INDIVIDUALS WHO MANAGE TO BUGGER ANYTHING UP RELATED TO MY ABOVE POST. ANY DEATH'S OR DAMAGE ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. PLEASE ONLY ATTEMPT THE ABOVE IF YOU HAVE ANY MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE AND A SAFE WORKING ENVIROMENT.

phew !!
FAF! giggling right now
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Originally Posted by quattroowner
I TAKE NO RESPONSINILTY FOR ANY DIM WITTED INDIVIDUALS WHO MANAGE TO BUGGER ANYTHING UP RELATED TO MY ABOVE POST. ANY DEATH'S OR DAMAGE ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. PLEASE ONLY ATTEMPT THE ABOVE IF YOU HAVE ANY MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE AND A SAFE WORKING ENVIROMENT.

phew !!
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I'll be checking news at 10 tonight to see if anyone has blown there street up lol
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Finally got my brakes done and if I don't say so myself, they look quite good

From this
- See more at: http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/si....5iZqKLE8.dpuf

To this

- See more at: http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/si....asTqmWXr.dpuf

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Wonder where you got that idea from Tom...

I did my calipers via electrolysis and they came up a treat. As tom says, its a piece of cake to remove the rust once its been bathed for a few hours. Pics of before, during and after my electrolysis.




And a couple of photos of my rig up...





After no more than 4hrs soak, the top of the tub looked like this...


So I removed one to inspect and this is what I found. The bare metal is left and the rust is very loosely attached for the most part.




I then spent 5mins giving them a cleanup with a cloth. The final results for tonight are below...


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Aye Lewis, seen you doing it and well i thought i give it another stab in the dark after i tried and failed before on other caliper's

Easy to do and surely saves effort. Just got to clean up the bore's and make them as smooth as possible. Need a bigger anode though as i only got a few small bit's of metal.

Safe enough to do as long as its well ventilated and not likely to get moved or knocked,

I tried to open the bothie door to turn off the battery charger on Weds night, ended up smashing the glass because the door was stiff and had a nice big f*^k bit of glass 3 inches into my shoulder!!! Bloody sore!!
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