JonMc

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I have a set of PF01 pads sat in the garage - not very good for road use as they produce a lot of dust, squeal quite a bit and need heat, but when they are warm they are immense especially when fitted with PF discs

AWG

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Looks like someone has been busy

How you finding the coilies?

mantazini

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Fantastic ... The Geo is not done so it's difficult to comment on the faster driving. 1st impressions on the slow 30-50mph were great, Still not sure how much better they are on the UK roads then my previous setup but what i noticed was the way they deal with pot holes and ruff tarmac in general.... If i leave on FR4 and R2 clicks (damping settings) it's softer and more linear , less bouncy ride with much less body roll , which is very important.... On "our usual place" mid pace the car wasn't leaning too much and kept compose and steering was much more accurate... I've tried 11 and 9 clicks on settings and that's probably the best coilover experience on a bit of a push pace , wasnt worth cornering as alignment settings were all over the place...
Very nice thin i've noticed on these hard settings there was almost zero body roll but the car dealt amazing with bumps , no crashy and bumpy ride at all... One little negative finding was when you actually hit the pot hole , the suspension transmit more sound and hard feel through the body. It's difficult to explain , it's not harsh or smtn but you can tell it's on coilovers not normal shocks.


Shortly after fitting coilies i've done the Whiteline front 22mm adjustable Arb with Whiteline adjustable links to balance the front end grip. I've left it on a soft setting as someone else's reference for now .

Yesterday night was a tough one .... Engine/gearbox mounts were not as easy to fit as i thought and made me sweat a bit , but we got there in the end.... I can feel a difference straight away.... Less movement and much more direct feel on the gear change combined with my Neylon gear linkage bush kit from Alyn@ASperfomance... As i suspected there's a bit more noise and mechanical feel through cars body , but that's actually a pleasant thing for me.



A small thing i've noticed when changing gear box mount , my old one wasn't the same as on UK cars which weren't solid in the center opposite to mine which was solid and looked like uprated Group N mount... This is my Hard race vs old mount


And this is Group N vs UK mount taken from the net for comparison

tubbytommy

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hahaha you gonna feel the vibrations with those engine mounts, i did.

have you done the gearbox pitch mount too?

mantazini

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Yes Dan

Done it , just not in a pic...

JonMc

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Top jobs, in terms of the mounts did you use an engine brace to jack the engine when you swapped them out or did you just get a trolley jack in there

As for the noise/vibes - I've got my meister R coilovers to fit now and new rear arm bushes as well as lateral arm bushes - it feels a lot more positive the more I do but the noise is always a compromise - ultimately it's my toy as is yours and it makes it more fun

53

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Ha ha you wanna see the stuff that's coming for mine mate Stiffness and NVH redefined

Looks great mate, real progress made

mantazini

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It was done on the ramp Jon , with a trolley jack . I like noise , it gives me more feedback and i feel more connected to a car... That's why i loved classic, much more feel to the car...

786omar

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Get the Geo setup booked in! The new setup is looking good

mantazini

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The "last" suspension goodies are on , at last and so time for a Geo setup . Have spoken to Rich if he's better and can help me with setting the car up again. He took the challenge and off we went. 1st we adjusted right height with me in a seat so the car sits neutral when driving and only then we went for alignment. It gets driven hard if ever driven these days and i'm planing one more track day this year so we opted for quite aggressive setup ... The car feels neutral , less nervous , the front 22mm arb gave a bit more stability and more grip ... Now i know what "they" meant when comparing front and back arb's with just the back one... As much as it feels "better" on a turn in with just the rear arb , while cornering the front has limited grip and eventually starts to wash away , understeer. The soft setting on the front and soft on the rear arb's made the car very neutral , giving max amount of grip , front and back. It is very tight and pointy on a turn in , just need to see the best settings on coilovers . So far as a "fast daily" i call it , lol, thats 6 fr and 4 rear is a bit too soft ... I will be able to play with the settings on the track..




Another thing i descovered needs doing is rolling rear arches... It rubs a bit with 8J wheels and 235 tyres , not a lot , but needs doing ... There's always smtn needs doing ... will it ever be over ???

mantazini

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As it all looks good ^^^ , not everything went smooth and i'm glad i went on the rollers as they were in the same premises . The car wasn't happy at all and after speaking with both Rich and Francis they reckon that quoting: it's probably dropped the ignition advance multiplier so low, that its tripped over from the standard fuel table to the fail safe table that is significantly richer. Which means It's well underpowered and the parameters are all wrong... I wont be putting up the graph as it wont tell you anything but it made a cheeky 310 bhp .... We going to investigate today what could caused it , going to make a couple pulls, logs and see if we can get to the root of "infection" I'm just hoping it's nothing major as the injectors and FPR are ready to go with a map tweak...

JonMc

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Some quite aggressive figures especially on the camber, but similar in many ways to what I'm currently running. I'll be interested in how you get on with the power bits to inform my next steps. I think I'll get my suspension sorted and take a run across to Rich and discuss the engine bits with him

mantazini

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After inspection today the car was all good and the reason was same as mentioned before. I have reseted it with my OBD2 device and since then it all came back to normal. It was just misfortune that i put it on the rollers , but at the same time was good as the problem was found which could cause a engine failure on the long run... No need t get back on the rollers ...

mantazini

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Another track day "must" have mod i was always forgetting .


Car is booked next wednesday to do the following mods:

DIY fuel rail mod
740cc Lateral modified Injectors
Sard FPR + gauge
Oil catch can
Tweak the map

Looking forward to it...

JonMc

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Getting there mate. I was going to run the DIY parallel fuel rail mod but in a moment of weakness (laziness) I've bought some alloy fuel rails just need to decide on whether to convert them to barbed push fittings and run rubber hose or buy lots of AN fittings and run braided hose thoughout the car along with new braided brake hose too

mantazini

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FB told me braided are the way forward in the long run with highered up pressure as well...

JonMc

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Totally agree mate, and with a billet fuel filter getting braided under the bonnet is easy - I may end up with a push fitting to/from the tank with the EGR valve and carbon cannister remove and a rollover valve fitted until I decide whether or not to fit a swirl pot

mantazini

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Are you really going to track it so hard for a swirl pot buddy? That is the question. So far so good for me , but keeping half tank most of the times , i haven't experienced surge just yet... It depends on a lot of factors also, tyres , suspension etc etc.... R888's and RE070's on me and i haven't felt it yet... I know Budgie did .... But he's one nutter on the track with his super grippy PJB tool...

JonMc

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Yep, experience will dictate whether or not it becomes necessary, it'll only happen if I suffer any issues as a result of not having one

mantazini

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Last month have been literally a nightmare , some work has been done , and the way it's all been done made me thinking and worried if everything is been done as it should be. The thread is not about that , but i'm used to FB's work ethic , nice and tidy , all done at the highest level , safety measures are on board , not leaving me with a doubt that i'll have to come back or even it would have to be re done... There's always a reason for everything and saying that i had run away from the guy i was dealing regards mapping and some other little mods as it wasn't done in a way for me to trust what he's doing ...

We've done the DIY fuel rail mod , swapped Lateral injectors which were funny when mapping , so we swapped to his modified and flowed ones which were much easier to work on (thats what i've been told , not sure if it was true now) Money out of pocket basically. FPR with the glycerin gauge done too. We fitted the oil catch can and so the problems started ... I have left my car to be done and collected it after some time , which wont be done again , but only with Rich if it really needs to be done.

I've been given back a detting car , found various problems which could end up my car in flames and other huge problems. Rather then digging the root of the problem various components were suggested as faulty which even to me not being a qualified mechanic , didn't make any sense...
Before using the guy i was about to go and map with JGM but was talked into using him .
So anyway eventually Simon met me at SRR 15 mins on the dyno for a check up we've found the corrupted rom file on my ecu which was a restriction to adjust map properly . now taking all things back what i've been told that my car had wastegate problems and some other stuff which was in a way for a nice boost curve , but came out as a corrupted file in the end.... Si put the boost back to 1.5 , which was whacked up to 1.7 , no surprise it was detting ...
I was let go home with unfinished map , but at least safe so i can make the Fridays Brands hatch day , but will have to come back for a mapping session again as that day there was just not enough of time to do all that.

It kind of breaks your attitude to the car stuff when it goes this way . I was gathering and trying different parts , to get the best combination out of them and eventually ended up just a couple of them not yet on the car and some incompetent self called tuner messes that all up in the last minute and can't be bothered to even try and sort it out......
Peters car has always been a good example of how a good track orientated scoob suppose to be built and the whole year i was trying to make mine only if half as good as PJB.....

oh well , live and learn , but Friday was a dry , cold'ish sunny day , full of my friends , the smell of petrol and the feel of melted rubber Was very enjoyable atmosphere and had some wicked track battles too ... I'm not just 100% sure yet the car is staying but after the experience i doubt i could have something as complete for my current needs and financially still manageable too. They're all money pits , any car , only this is almost done at my needed tune level... Roll on 2014 !!! The more track days the better

My messy engine bay




And some track stuff ....






BTW , the noise test chap was really nice to me , and that was my 3rd warning now with the Fujitsubo system . I made 107db but he wrote 103 , so i could enjoy the day ..... It's sold now and Revolution 3" system bought instead , just waiting for the delivery....

madisonmonkey

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405 seems a pretty decent number Mantas
Have you managed to get past Pete yet...

mantazini

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It's not the numbers bud it's the torque that counts and it couldn't be managed . The whole power graph is like NA car , boost tables were mess, 1 bar boost till 6k or smtn.....

Regards Pete ........it's very controversial

JonMc

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Pete's is up for sale mate if you fancy it

I'm pleased to see you have a SARD FPR fitted as I'm getting mixed messages about their suitability, but not until after I'd bought mine so I'm a little more happy now, as no doubt you will be once everything is sorted. And if it helps settle your mind, I've heard on plenty of occasions that the flow of Lateral injectors does cause problems for many mappers.

Roll on next summer and an M3 hey

MilleniumRacer

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Great project thread this, subscribed .

mantazini

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Really ??? Do you know what he's getting next?











I know

Now , M3 wouldn't be anything like what i have now , a couple subtle mods and kept as it is , would i be happy with that , i dont know ... I had a good look around this one on Brands...and it was superb , so much work done too ...


But ... start from 7.20

And my shed is not really highly modified either ... It would be a good money pit M3 , i might just stay with mine for a bit longer as have other plans where to spend money and i'm getting my love back for the bug , it exceeded my expectations , specially in that kind of , not really 100% healthy state......


Had superb service from breakers and got a delivery with a Revolution 3" track friendly exhaust system. Damn it was dirty and rusty , so i got some polisher and got it back a little bit more fresh again... Now needs to be fitted. ...

jura11

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Hi Mantas

Sorry hear about yours issues with the car,but at least you are sorted something and enjoyed track days

Revolution exhausts is great system,we run one and we are loved the sound,although sometimes we are missed sound of the Buddy Club

Good luck with rest Mantas

Jura

mantazini

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Tnx Jura

This subaru tuning game ain't an easy thing , and i'm not the one to tell you . I do like my Fujitsubo system , but just cant be arsed to think of another lame excuse for noise marshals I did research and revolution was the solution for this as its difficult to find another true 3" quiet'ish system with a good flow...

mantazini

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After searching for a decent classic downpipe ,as it turns out only this way it will work with my classic Revolution system ,as the classic center section is a bit longer , i gave up . Apparently its not so simple , as most classic downpipes havent got a rear lambda slot , some do have , but nothing available. I measured things up , of how much it would be need to cut to match my existent downpipe and went DIY way . As it is a slip jointed system it was a very easy job to do. RTS boys gave me a helping hand with tools , 30 mins and job done...
Now the sound , i thought it's going to be quieter than that! Started today and on cold it's a very loud thing , but comes down when heats up .... But te most important thing theres no more bass inside the cabin ... I quiet like it so far , we'll see how we getting on with it... Downpipe was rewrapped in magma heat wrap too....

M444GY

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might need t5o put those bolts in

fpan

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Sorry to hear about the troubles Mantas and I hope all is well now. Who was the mapper btw? PM me if you prefer not to write in public.

Fantastic videos and driving, really smooth and fast.

The Mini seemed to be going well but I guess it must have a lot done to it.

A few questions:
- What oil temperatures were you seeing before and after fitting the oil cooler?
- What tyres were you using on the last 2 videos?

Why sell the car and start all over again, it goes very well and seems to eat most thing on track!