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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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anybody know if a classic 3 port will fit my car and where do i buy a hrc pump from?
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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will i need a boost controller aswell?
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Classic 3 port should fit.
You don't need a boost controller.

And you buy an HRC pump from HRC
They should be in the traders forum on here or you can find them in the group buy forum.

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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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anybody know if this turbo will fit my car?

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...or-spares.html
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It will but you will need to modify the housing from. 90' angle to front entry, easily done
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Infected by sti
It will but you will need to modify the housing from. 90' angle to front entry, easily done
hhmmm the seller tells me it is a front entry already
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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The picture shown on the thread looks to be a 90' elbow to me can see on the thread he says its front entry tho? Looking at the pic I would not say so tho unless that's not the turbo in question?
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The one in the photo is a top entry for sure. £60 is too cheap for one in good working order unless he's bonkers!

The good thing about TD turbos is they can be rebuilt even if they're fooked - the IHI (vf) ones can't.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Jura I'm running 650's and Simon said the standard FPR will be fine.
Unless they're different between WRX and STI I'd leave it alone.

I'd also recommend the HRC's - got one on mine too
Unless it's 2.5 (or foreign) engine he shouldn't have TGV's - according to most none of the EJ20 STI UK engines had them.

Your questions re AVCS are a good point though - it would be interesting to hear how the STI unit has been wired in and mapped...
You should be OK with 650cc without the problem,but as Steve(The Gimp) he running on his T too FPR with 650cc,if you will be considering running meth I would suggest FPR,but still I would go with your mapper advice first

WRX have TGV,better option is get hold off 2.0L UK STi,which can cost less than paying someone to do porting TGV

HRC are good fuel pumps and really for money which you are paying for them is worth to consider



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About the headers yours headers if they're WRX/STi are 2 bolt and you will need 2 bolt Up pipe,speak with Alyn@AS Performance which should be able to make one in near future Harvey Up pipe, which should help in spool up

TD turbo is good as above said,they're no problem to rebuild,yes you can rebuild any turbo as IHI,but sometimes is problem to hold off the spare parts

If you are thinking go with GT Spec headers,you don't need them and usually GT Spec headers are recommended above 400bhp,below that you can loose spool.

Classic 3-port will fit on yours without the problem

Spark plugs as above 7b I would suggest too and panel filter depends on your preference,difference between them is marginal



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About the headers yours headers if they're WRX/STi are 2 bolt and you will need 2 bolt Up pipe,speak with Alyn@AS Performance which should be able to make one in near future Harvey Up pipe, which should help in spool up

TD turbo is good as above said,they're no problem to rebuild,yes you can rebuild any turbo as IHI,but sometimes is problem to hold off the spare parts

If you are thinking go with GT Spec headers,you don't need them and usually GT Spec headers are recommended above 400bhp,below that you can loose spool.

Classic 3-port will fit on yours without the problem

Spark plugs as above 7b I would suggest too and panel filter depends on your preference,difference between them is marginal



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So Alyn has the Harvey design and is going to manufacture and sell them? News!

Agree with the comments re headers, I was told this too by Harvey when asking about them.

Re IHI rebuild, I was under the impression that the '34 and '35 turbos are sealed units, have you seen them repaired then as I've never seen one come up for sale.
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Originally Posted by MrNoisy
The one in the photo is a top entry for sure. £60 is too cheap for one in good working order unless he's bonkers!

The good thing about TD turbos is they can be rebuilt even if they're fooked - the IHI (vf) ones can't.
That's not too cheap , it's just a good price , I've payed £60 including an up pipe and my mate payed £60 for his too
I modded mine to front entry and have been running it for a few 1000 miles and it's all good

The problem is for some reason folks think turbos are worth good money
They're not td05 16s are in abundance and £50/60 is about right
And Td04 IMHO are even cheaper £0 worthless
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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I've never had it done but I have contacted Turbo Dynamics in tha past about rebuilding an IHI VF35, they gave me a quote so I guess it can be done.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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right im on the lookout for a 2 bolt up-pipe but ive seen some with a flexi and some without so whats the best option? surely the ones with a flexi will over time break up?

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Flexi are ****e - avoid at all costs.
Slip jointed are the ones to go for if you're buying non OEM items.
And do yourself a favour and stay away from cheap eBay copies - they are ALL crap and will perform worse than OEM STI items - proven time and time again!
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Originally Posted by MrNoisy
Flexi are ****e - avoid at all costs.
Slip jointed are the ones to go for if you're buying non OEM items.
And do yourself a favour and stay away from cheap eBay copies - they are ALL crap and will perform worse than OEM STI items - proven time and time again!
I've bought a second hand sti item that will be ok won't it
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
I've bought a second hand sti item that will be ok won't it
Yeah an Sti will be fine , they a good first step
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Yeah an Sti will be fine , they a good first step
good good
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Shreksta I've noticed you have a milltek down pipe, have you fitted it yet? As I see you fitting with japspeed items, the millteks are only made for other millteks as they have diffrent lengths to others and you have 3" centre section, what size is your milltek as they come in 2.75 or 3"?
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Shreksta I've noticed you have a milltek down pipe, have you fitted it yet? As I see you fitting with japspeed items, the millteks are only made for other millteks as they have diffrent lengths to others and you have 3" centre section, what size is your milltek as they come in 2.75 or 3"?
the car came with a miltek de-cat downpipe and full miltek system inc sports cat and backbox-all 3" bore

i kept the de-cat downpipe but removed the rest of the system as it wasnt loud enough for me

i now have a miltek de-cat downpipe fitted to a miltek de-cat + de-resonated center section (this came up cheap so instead of chopping mine up i bought this and sold mine) then i have a japspeed backbox with 3" bore pipework fitted to it
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the car came with a miltek de-cat downpipe and full miltek system inc sports cat and backbox-all 3" bore

i kept the de-cat downpipe but removed the rest of the system as it wasnt loud enough for me

i now have a miltek de-cat downpipe fitted to a miltek de-cat + de-resonated center section (this came up cheap so instead of chopping mine up i bought this and sold mine) then i have a japspeed backbox with 3" bore pipework fitted to it
Ah right so it's already fitted then, just wanted to make you aware incase you had problems with size fitting as millteks should be kept together IMO.
Not loud enough they are beautiful, another noisy git
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Ah right so it's already fitted then, just wanted to make you aware incase you had problems with size fitting as millteks should be kept together IMO.
Not loud enough they are beautiful, another noisy git
if its to loud.....................your to old

yeah it was a well made system and i still have the receipt from powerstation (not cheap) but it was just to quiet
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I would Have to agree with that statement, got a full milltek on mine and whilst its not a drone, it aint got enough depth to the exhaust note IMO, But mine has got a resonator on the center section, and the back box is quite chunky so gonna try a non resonated center and see what happens, if I don't like it ill add a new back box and if that turns out to be too loud or droning i'll use the original resonated section with the new back box and see what the outcome is then don't want it monstrosity loud, but it needs that bit more

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I would Have to agree with that statement, got a full milltek on mine and whilst its not a drone, it aint got enough depth to the exhaust note IMO, But mine has got a resonator on the center section, and the back box is quite chunky so gonna try a non resonated center and see what happens, if I don't like it ill add a new back box and if that turns out to be too loud or droning ill use the original resonated section with the new back box and see what the outcome is then don't want it monstrosity loud, but it needs that bit more
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Oh yes don't like them restrictive things
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Oh yes don't like them restrictive things
well if you remove the resonator aswell you should get a nice bark to it............mine sounds like a pissed off lion
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Originally Posted by Infected by sti
I would Have to agree with that statement, got a full milltek on mine and whilst its not a drone, it aint got enough depth to the exhaust note IMO, But mine has got a resonator on the center section, and the back box is quite chunky so gonna try a non resonated center and see what happens, if I don't like it ill add a new back box and if that turns out to be too loud or droning i'll use the original resonated section with the new back box and see what the outcome is then don't want it monstrosity loud, but it needs that bit more
Don't remember what centre section mine was when bought it but it's a milltek and straight through 2.75" clear hole in s/s type colour not sure if that means resenated or not but it's awesome, nice and humble when poodling around then when on boost, it's awesome.
So nice off boost and sounds ace on boost, good for motorway journeys.

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I can't say I dislike the note because I don't as such but needs a little more depth to it, when its on boost you can hear the turbo going nuts but being a twinscroll anyway I ain't got the traditional burble which I'm now use to, but to make up for it the exhaust needs a little more of a "bark" so to speak, everyone who has got in there has commented how quiet it actually is even on boost compared to my uk model, even have comments of "I thought you was an Evo coming up there then" and I get that quite regular so something needs to be done, can't have people thinking my beloved scoob is an Evo think ill change the center section first and go from there.

I have also read that millteks have their own fittings but what I made of it was that the flanges don't meet up as they are welded in a different position to other exhausts, so if I wanted to keep the rear box for now but change the center, can anybody tell me what pipe will go in between was goin to try a cobra 3" non resonated section which we have kicking about up the unit somewhere, any ideas if it will fit guys? I don't mind having to re tack the flange in to a different position but is the length of the centre section the same?
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I can't say I dislike the note because I don't as such but needs a little more depth to it, when its on boost you can hear the turbo going nuts but being a twinscroll anyway I ain't got the traditional burble which I'm now use to, but to make up for it the exhaust needs a little more of a "bark" so to speak, everyone who has got in there has commented how quiet it actually is even on boost compared to my uk model, even have comments of "I thought you was an Evo coming up there then" and I get that quite regular so something needs to be done, can't have people thinking my beloved scoob is an Evo think ill change the center section first and go from there.

I have also read that millteks have their own fittings but what I made of it was that the flanges don't meet up as they are welded in a different position to other exhausts, so if I wanted to keep the rear box for now but change the center, can anybody tell me what pipe will go in between was goin to try a cobra 3" non resonated section which we have kicking about up the unit somewhere, any ideas if it will fit guys? I don't mind having to re tack the flange in to a different position but is the length of the centre section the same?
get under it and measure it pal.................only way to know for sure
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Originally Posted by Infected by sti
I can't say I dislike the note because I don't as such but needs a little more depth to it, when its on boost you can hear the turbo going nuts but being a twinscroll anyway I ain't got the traditional burble which I'm now use to, but to make up for it the exhaust needs a little more of a "bark" so to speak, everyone who has got in there has commented how quiet it actually is even on boost compared to my uk model, even have comments of "I thought you was an Evo coming up there then" and I get that quite regular so something needs to be done, can't have people thinking my beloved scoob is an Evo think ill change the center section first and go from there.

I have also read that millteks have their own fittings but what I made of it was that the flanges don't meet up as they are welded in a different position to other exhausts, so if I wanted to keep the rear box for now but change the center, can anybody tell me what pipe will go in between was goin to try a cobra 3" non resonated section which we have kicking about up the unit somewhere, any ideas if it will fit guys? I don't mind having to re tack the flange in to a different position but is the length of the centre section the same?
Ah I see that's explains it then, yours is a jdm twinscroll with equal length headers?
And then you have a full milltek on, which milltek are one of the mature type exhausts with a quality sound on boost, tbh I would prefer it quiter,
To get the burble type sound back, you would probably need to change the headers to un-equal length headers but think people in past have still not been happy with sound.
Leave it and don't join the noisy clan it's about performance and handling to me, the quiter the better lol
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