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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
When I was working I had to miss the treetops, maintain a precise speed and height on an attack run, keep a watch for other machines to avoid collision, talk on the radio, monitor and organise the rest of my crew,keep a visual backup on the navigation, keep accurate timing,and even listen to bad jokes at times!

I find driving a car, missing other vehicles, and cross checking my speed is quite simple really!
But for most people, driving is not their occupation for whch they have been trained for many years. You did not skim the treetops in your first year after ten hours of training, and if you didn't do well you would lose your job. For most people driving is something that they have to do between more important things, passing the test is a hurdle they have to jump, and all the lessons are promptly forgotten. You are one of the elite who can do all that multitasking, I bet many others dropped out of the training because they were not up to the job, but they still drive. You are comparing oranges to cheese.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Not sure I'm with you, thought the whole idea with the course was you wouldn't get points, thus insurers have no reason to load???
The insurers argument is that if you've been caught speeding, then you are a higher risk. So going forward expect insurers to ask whether you've been on a speed awareness course. Insurers see it as a way of making extra.

So for average Joe who is asked to pay £60 and take 3 points with a increase in insurance premium, or pay £90 or greater, spend 4 hours being lectured to and an increase in your premium. Which would you choose?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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Mate did the course recently lol

- he claimed he could of got off with lady instructor,.......
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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HEY! That's my Granny you're talking about!
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Surely the counter argument is that having been on the course you have a greater awareness and are more likely to drive slower. If that's what the government assume then why do insurance companies feel as though they know better?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
HEY! That's my Granny you're talking about!
What the hell you talking about, you're supposed to be 76.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
But for most people, driving is not their occupation for whch they have been trained for many years. You did not skim the treetops in your first year after ten hours of training, and if you didn't do well you would lose your job. For most people driving is something that they have to do between more important things, passing the test is a hurdle they have to jump, and all the lessons are promptly forgotten. You are one of the elite who can do all that multitasking, I bet many others dropped out of the training because they were not up to the job, but they still drive. You are comparing oranges to cheese.
To a certain extent what you say is correct, I did have a lot of experience at that part of the job. In fact, most of my flying was done at low level.

Yes I had more that ten hours training before all that "hooliganism" but nevertheless, when I arrived for my first operational tour in Germany, I was given an arrival check in a dual control Canberrs which lasted for just over an hour and was then shoved off solo in a full blown Canberra B(I)8 for my first low level trip and told to get on with it. I remember my conscience bothering me for flying at low level since it felt somewhat illegal until a couple of Swifts went past underneath me!. I never looked back after that .

It does become second nature after the years of course, but you never let the attention wander or you just dont last very long.

My point was that when you have been driving for a while and have got used to handling a car and coping with traffic etc., it cant be that difficult to do all that and keep a close enough check on your speed. It is certainly no excuse for speeding anyway.

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