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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Who said that this was/is/ or is going to be the law?????

Unless we should put in laws that forbid different parts of our society having traditions and concepts of their own?
It is more about other people having to change to accept or incorporate their views.
You know that only too well!
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
As we don't practice Sharia law in this country and are not likely to in the near future who actually gives a toss? those who are moaning about something as trivial as this really need to give their heads a good ******* shake!
Thats an unwise assumption.

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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
It is more about other people having to change to accept or incorporate their views.
You know that only too well!


I accept your views, I just largely disagree with them, doesn't mean I have to change.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Hypothetical question but if the boot was on the other foot over in Islam-land somewhere, do you think the same concessions would be made?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Hypothetical question but if the boot was on the other foot over in Islam-land somewhere, do you think the same concessions would be made?
Nope
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
Part of the tradition was the whole family would pool money to buy property.

So everyone would put in to buy the first son a house, then the second etc, each eventually gettign their money back (I think this is the way it worked). Daughters are married off to the sons who have got this sort of support.

It's fairly medevial in approach but it does mean that islamic families are generally a lot closer than most.

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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Hypothetical question but if the boot was on the other foot over in Islam-land somewhere, do you think the same concessions would be made?
What's your point?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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That it's one rule for them, another rule for us?


You must be being obtuse for a reason?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
That it's one rule for them, another rule for us?


You must be being obtuse for a reason?
I was kind of hoping he wasn't suggesting that we should become a theocratic and oppressive society
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Yes but naturally you can see that if concessions are given in the UK to an Islam-based concern, then it might be perceived as one step along the path of Islamification of the UK and the introduction of Sharia law on a wider scale by the back door. And i think most British people would not wish to see that.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Yes but naturally you can see that if concessions are given in the UK to an Islam-based concern, then it might be perceived as one step along the path of Islamification of the UK and the introduction of Sharia law on a wider scale by the back door. And i think most British people would not wish to see that.
There are lots of things that are never going to happen that we could get worried about, but mostly we decide they ain't worth worrying about. I suggest that would be a wise course of action on this subject too.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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I hope you're right on this, but saying the UK will "never" be governed by Sharia Law is a bolder statement than i'd be prepared to make, unfortunately.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I hope you're right on this, but saying the UK will "never" be governed by Sharia Law is a bolder statement than i'd be prepared to make, unfortunately.
OK I'm prepared to make that statement over and over if you like, because it WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Anyone who suggests it will usually has an agenda
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Well yes, you can see the inroads that Sikh law has made into British criminal law (sikh courts have existed for decades) as well as Jewish civil courts (which have existed for centuries).,

Oh...no...wait..no you can't.

It really is amusing to see the weak minded be utterly compelled by the Mail etc in the face of no evidence whatsoever.

Sharia law is not, has not and will not overule Criminal law in this country. If you beleive otherwise you are a simple minded buffoon.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
OK I'm prepared to make that statement over and over if you like, because it WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Anyone who suggests it will usually has an agenda
I agree - it will never officially happen.
It probably has unofficially happened in certain areas of the mainland though.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
That it's one rule for them, another rule for us?


You must be being obtuse for a reason?
I think I'll leave it there, thanks Tel.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
I think I'll leave it there, thanks Tel.
No it's ok you're allowed to answer
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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does this mean that muslims can't wear branded clothing ? as most companies lend the manufactor of thier branded goods, money or equipment in order to produce goods in countries that could never afford the machinery, and they do charge for the loans,
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
No it's ok you're allowed to answer
Not much point as

A) Tel answered it for me (the hypothetical question)
B) I don't appreciate the patronising/condescending manner of your above quote
C) Because of point B above, I think you're a bit of a **** tbh
D) There's your answer

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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Not much point as

A) Tel answered it for me (the hypothetical question)
B) I don't appreciate the patronising/condescending manner of your above quote
C) Because of point B above, I think you're a bit of a **** tbh
D) There's your answer

a. Well you still haven't told me what the point of your 'hypothetical question' was. Tel didn't actually answer it
b. Well if you pose a question, expect that some people are going to want to understand from the horses mouth, why it was posed
c. I'll not stoop to your level - I'll leave that one hanging
d. Because of A you haven't answered it


At this point your usual trick will be to call me names, and insinuate that I have some sympathy with child murderers
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
a. Well you still haven't told me what the point of your 'hypothetical question' was. Tel didn't actually answer it
b. Well if you pose a question, expect that some people are going to want to understand from the horses mouth, why it was posed
c. I'll not stoop to your level - I'll leave that one hanging
d. Because of A you haven't answered it


At this point your usual trick will be to call me names, and insinuate that I have some sympathy with child murderers
To quote someone else on here "that's the spirit".

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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Martin i think it's fair to say that on the balance of probability, given the way Christianity is embedded within our legal framework, that its expulsion in favour of Sharia Law is at best, negligible. Lots of people don't really understand how embedded it is, and i can feel you just waiting to pounce on anybody who doesn't understand the mechanics as well as you obviously do. But i'd still contest that "never" is a massive word to use, even for a constitution as old as the UK's. And that's what this story is about, just making people nervous - rightly or wrongly - that a little bit here, a little bit there, and all of a sudden it's a different set of rules we're playing by. That's the general gist i think.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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I think we should introduce the chopping hands off thieves bit in UK law. Especially car criminals.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I think we should introduce the chopping hands off thieves bit in UK law. Especially car criminals.
You sound like a savage.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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The MCB has come out saying it's against Sharia for Muslim players to wear the new Newcastle Utd shirt with the Wonga.com sponsorship logo.
Well Newcastle get my backing When it comes to religion, i love anything that offends
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
Last time I checked this was the UK and we have our own laws, sharia law is not apart of that and as such should not be considered.
Well, if it stops loan companies charging 2000% interest and using those f*cking annoying old biddy puppets...... maybe we shouldn't be too hasty!
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Not much point as

A) Tel answered it for me (the hypothetical question)
B) I don't appreciate the patronising/condescending manner of your above quote
C) Because of point B above, I think you're a bit of a **** tbh
D) There's your answer

LoL COB!
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
You sound like a savage.
Thanks
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Thanks
That's ok. Would you be prepared to do the chopping?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
LoL COB!
Yes he's a comic genius

I guess it's true, like really does attract like. Where are you going on honeymoon?

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