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Old 17 August 2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
FACT is a very strong word to use in statements like that. What actual tests (with repeatable results of course ), have you carried out to back the use of that word up? Not having a pop, just playing Devil’s advocate to your statements.

Really there is only one answer to the OP; if you can afford either the wrx or the sti go drive both cars and make your mind up
ok Mr advocate, peak torque comes in sooner on a wrx ppp and is higher, read it on some ppp test in a mag, do you seriously believe that a standard sti would be quicker? it will out brake the wrx after about 5 min but again not by much,and it won't out brake mine with my ap's on it.

The sti only really comes into it's own after prolonged abuse, and thats only down to better brakes, stronger engine and box, which is only relevant if you plan on abusing and modding, but for general daily use most won't even get close to it's full capabilities on the daily commute.

And to be honest it's not a particularly well sorted package out of the box for the more commited driver anyway, and needs a fair few mods to make it a serious weapon, i'd save the mod money miss the newage sti out all together and go spec c personally, either that or a properly modded 450bhp type r, but all of that is irrelevant with regards the op's question.

I did drive both back to back and chose the wrx, and i'd do the same every time for a quick daily with weekend thrills they are very hard to beat for the money, but i have an sti type r in the garage for the play days. although it is currently in bits and will be that way for good a while.

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Old 17 August 2012, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
ok Mr advocate, peak torque comes in sooner on a wrx ppp and is higher, read it on some ppp test in a mag, do you seriously believe that a standard sti would be quicker? it will out brake the wrx after about 5 min but again not by much,and it won't out brake mine with my ap's on it.

The sti only really comes into it's own after prolonged abuse, and thats only down to better brakes, stronger engine and box, which is only relevant if you plan on abusing and modding, but for general daily use most won't even get close to it's full capabilities on the daily commute.

And to be honest it's not a particularly well sorted package out of the box for the more commited driver anyway, and needs a fair few mods to make it a serious weapon, i'd save the mod money miss the newage sti out all together and go spec c personally, either that or a properly modded 450bhp type r, but all of that is irrelevant with regards the op's question.

I did drive both back to back and chose the wrx, and i'd do the same every time for a quick daily with weekend thrills they are very hard to beat for the money, but i have an sti type r in the garage for the play days. although it is currently in bits and will be that way for good a while.
I have no idea which is faster, not really interested either; I went to buy a blob when they first came out and hated it, hence my ratty old v6 classic

Having spent thousands and thousands of pounds on it my personal experience tells me to start off with something as strong as is possibly available and save grief\time\money later on. However I'll stick to my earlier advice; if the OP can afford them both go drive both of them and then decide. After all its not about how quick they are on paper its about how they feel to drive that puts the smaile on your face and the sti is very different to the wrx
Old 06 December 2012, 02:30 PM
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Just a little bump, sold my 330ci yesterday for 4500, so now am looking to get an impreza, only want to spend 4500 as insurance is due on the 19th, and thats going to be a grand, plus with christmas its an expensive month!

Dont think im going to bother with an STI, so will look for a prodrived wrx, or a wrx lightly modded, decat + remap.

Was also looking at a civic type r, but i think if i buy one everytime i see a suburu i will regret not getting one, has anyone here owned a type r?
Old 06 December 2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_uk
Just a little bump, sold my 330ci yesterday for 4500, so now am looking to get an impreza, only want to spend 4500 as insurance is due on the 19th, and thats going to be a grand, plus with christmas its an expensive month!

Dont think im going to bother with an STI, so will look for a prodrived wrx, or a wrx lightly modded, decat + remap.

Was also looking at a civic type r, but i think if i buy one everytime i see a suburu i will regret not getting one, has anyone here owned a type r?
Would of thought your 330 would be quicker than a type r a friend of mine has 1 and I was surprised how slow it felt. Dosnt compare to an Impreza at all
Old 06 December 2012, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobysean84
Would of thought your 330 would be quicker than a type r a friend of mine has 1 and I was surprised how slow it felt. Dosnt compare to an Impreza at all

Standing start, it all depends on the driver, had a play with a couple before, and different outcomes both times, although not by much! Civic would of had me in the bends though without a doubt! which is what i want from the next car, something that handles well, as well as being quick, the 330 was a one trick pony.
Old 06 December 2012, 03:12 PM
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Yeah fair enough but the civic just dosnt feel exciting to me unlike an Impreza. I'm actually going the other way to you just sold my Impreza and looking at getting a 330 or m3 if I can raise the funds
Old 06 December 2012, 03:20 PM
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i came from a 325i coupe to my impreza, an the bmw can stay there..... impreza all the way from now on.
Old 06 December 2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobysean84
Yeah fair enough but the civic just dosnt feel exciting to me unlike an Impreza. I'm actually going the other way to you just sold my Impreza and looking at getting a 330 or m3 if I can raise the funds
Yea, i know what you mean, dont know if i can justify the extra insurance, fuel and general matience though, need to have a serious think about it.

Dont know what your impreza was running, and if you are still looking for power, but i rekon you will get bored of the 330 very quickly, it is quick, but doesn't feel quick, if you know what i mean. Whereas the M3 is ment to be a totally different animal, if you could afford the m3 i would 100% go for that, but then it all depends on what your looking for in a car.

Shaun, i hope i agree with you after buying my next car, i do want to run a fast jap car before life takes over with a mortgage and kids etc, now is the perfect time for me to do it.
Old 06 December 2012, 03:47 PM
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It's more for the mrs really she'll be driving it more than me as I've moved right next to my work so only drive a couple of times a week and usually the kids are in the back anyway so just want something comfortable and still relatively quick. Don't let running costs put you off an impreza they're not that bad mine was running 330 bhp and would average 20-24 mpg plus was one of the most reliable cars I've owned
Old 06 December 2012, 03:56 PM
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Old 06 December 2012, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_uk
Whereas the M3 is ment to be a totally different animal, if you could afford the m3 i would 100% go for that,
Save an extra grand or so and you could have one.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...m3-2003/948128
Old 06 December 2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Save an extra grand or so and you could have one.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...m3-2003/948128

That is seriously cheap, something must be wrong with it

Staying away from bmws for a while myself, had them last 3 years, and fancy a change, narrowed it down to civic type r or an wrx..

Sean, im glad to hear that it an impreza wont be as expensive to run as i have been told, i can live with 20mpg, have been doing so for the last 3 years, and im sure a wrx with less bhp would be averaging a little higher.

Good shout with the 330 though, it is a perfect machine for what you describe, when i am a family man myself, i reckon i will be going back to german, as for now with a missus who doesnt really care about cars, as long as she can get a lift home from work jap is the way to go
Old 06 December 2012, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Save an extra grand or so and you could have one.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...m3-2003/948128
Yeah that does seem very cheap? Nice though
Old 06 December 2012, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_uk
That is seriously cheap, something must be wrong with it

Staying away from bmws for a while myself, had them last 3 years, and fancy a change, narrowed it down to civic type r or an wrx..

Sean, im glad to hear that it an impreza wont be as expensive to run as i have been told, i can live with 20mpg, have been doing so for the last 3 years, and im sure a wrx with less bhp would be averaging a little higher.

Good shout with the 330 though, it is a perfect machine for what you describe, when i am a family man myself, i reckon i will be going back to german, as for now with a missus who doesnt really care about cars, as long as she can get a lift home from work jap is the way to go
Yeah id go for it. Never driven a car as much fun as a scooby will definately get another 1 day
Old 06 December 2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobysean84
Yeah id go for it. Never driven a car as much fun as a scooby will definately get another 1 day

Just noticed your from bournemouth, im living in charminster myself
Old 06 December 2012, 09:16 PM
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I had a 330ci MSport convertible before the Type R Impreza. The 330 is a very nice cruising car, plenty of grunt but really not that exciting, before the 330 I had a blob wrx vltd, the BMW was a better day to day car for comfort but as a weekend car the Impreza was better, a bit more of a laugh
Old 07 December 2012, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by matt_uk
Just noticed your from bournemouth, im living in charminster myself
Ah just down the road from my old place used to live winton banks, living down poole quay now
Old 07 December 2012, 08:07 AM
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Funny I've just had the 520d msport and this morning I'm getting the 330d and so far not impressed at all

Boring as hell, after over 2 years with my Scoobynet I still enjoy getting in it, and it still turns heads.

I know where I think I,ll be keeping my money. Good luck
Old 07 December 2012, 07:43 PM
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Done exactly what you are thinking of.

Had a 330ci, bought after I had to see my first Impreza and like you have said, fantastic car but dull.

Had it a year, including getting stuck in the snow at the beginning of this year.

Glad I when back to a scoob and although I miss some of the creature comforts, I don't regret it at all.
Old 07 December 2012, 09:10 PM
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op price would find him a nice wrx http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-SUBAR...item2ec3ca8663

nice base for some slight mods if doesn't want sti power
Old 08 December 2012, 09:44 AM
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Zayd not sure about the 330 killing the wrx. Not the one I had anyway
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