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Rafa speaks the truth. Time for that group of so-called fans to direct their bile at the real source of the issue here.
Some of you lot can't see a priest on a mountain of sugar
Some of you lot can't see a priest on a mountain of sugar
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It wasn't right for him to say what he said in the manner that he did as it comes across as another rant, for which we know he has previous, but what he said about the fans was actually spot on, shouldn't have attacked the board though or whinged about his title.
After watching them in recent weeks you get the impression the players aren't giving 100%, pretty much like they were under AVB which is poor in my book and again we "Focus" our attention on Terry......... Mr Divisive, Mr Centre of Attention I'm amazed Roman has put up with him for so long.
Rafa will walk or be pushed before the end of the season and lets see if they let Terry manage the side into oblivion, lets see how good he is over Rafa and AVB, stop being a snide Terry and show us what you've got .
This will probably come across as another pop at Terry for Paul and Richie but look at the facts, he's at the centre of 90% of the issues your club has experienced in recent years.
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After watching them in recent weeks you get the impression the players aren't giving 100%, pretty much like they were under AVB which is poor in my book and again we "Focus" our attention on Terry......... Mr Divisive, Mr Centre of Attention I'm amazed Roman has put up with him for so long.
Perhaps he's riding Roman, and Roman enjoys it?
I do get the impression that secret meetings are taking place amongst the team, with JT as the ring leader.
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This speaks volumes . . . "I’m the manager and I will be managing the team. I like to manage players and not names, so I will pick my team"
Sounds like there's been interference from Roman or players in terms of picking the team, prompting this reaction from Rafa.
Sounds like there's been interference from Roman or players in terms of picking the team, prompting this reaction from Rafa.
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I do understand what you say about Terry but if you believe what's said in the media,Terry as only been involved in 2 manger's getting the sack and that was Phil Scolari and was indirectly involved in the Jose Mourinho sacking.AVB was sacked because he fell out with Lamps,Drogba and Cole.
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Do you think the reasons Cfc are not playing to their full potential is because of poor form, poor manager or player disatisfaction ?
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lol - spooky - the curse of the Baggies...
One of the papers was saying that the rant came after he ripped the players off a strip at the changing ground about not playing to their potential or being up to the task only to have one of them disagree and say "this team won the European Cup". If it's true, and you'd have to suspect that it would probably have been JT, it would be endemic of the out of control dressing room there that has effectively got several managers the sack.
Reading the "rant" a lot of what he said rings true, however misguided to actually come out with it, and the obvious real issue lies with RA continuously undermining each manager in turn and thereby encouraging bolshie types in the dressing room to get above themselves. The best thing for Chelsea long term will probably be when that lot finally leave the dressing room and if RA stops fiddling for a while.
Mind you having said all that - i'd love you to hang on to Rafa
One of the papers was saying that the rant came after he ripped the players off a strip at the changing ground about not playing to their potential or being up to the task only to have one of them disagree and say "this team won the European Cup". If it's true, and you'd have to suspect that it would probably have been JT, it would be endemic of the out of control dressing room there that has effectively got several managers the sack.
Reading the "rant" a lot of what he said rings true, however misguided to actually come out with it, and the obvious real issue lies with RA continuously undermining each manager in turn and thereby encouraging bolshie types in the dressing room to get above themselves. The best thing for Chelsea long term will probably be when that lot finally leave the dressing room and if RA stops fiddling for a while.
Mind you having said all that - i'd love you to hang on to Rafa
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I do understand what you say about Terry but if you believe what's said in the media,Terry as only been involved in 2 manger's getting the sack and that was Phil Scolari and was indirectly involved in the Jose Mourinho sacking.AVB was sacked because he fell out with Lamps,Drogba and Cole.
Total joke of a football club. FFS Torres will be on his 5th manager come May!
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One of the papers was saying that the rant came after he ripped the players off a strip at the changing ground about not playing to their potential or being up to the task only to have one of them disagree and say "this team won the European Cup". If it's true, and you'd have to suspect that it would probably have been JT, it would be endemic of the out of control dressing room there that has effectively got several managers the sack.
Reading the "rant" a lot of what he said rings true, however misguided to actually come out with it, and the obvious real issue lies with RA continuously undermining each manager in turn and thereby encouraging bolshie types in the dressing room to get above themselves. The best thing for Chelsea long term will probably be when that lot finally leave the dressing room and if RA stops fiddling for a while.
Reading the "rant" a lot of what he said rings true, however misguided to actually come out with it, and the obvious real issue lies with RA continuously undermining each manager in turn and thereby encouraging bolshie types in the dressing room to get above themselves. The best thing for Chelsea long term will probably be when that lot finally leave the dressing room and if RA stops fiddling for a while.
I'm pretty sure JT, and probably Cole, have too much to say in dressing room. The FSW was never going to be liked by the fans, but the players should be more professional and respect to whoever is the manager. Though, if they don't believe in the way he wants to play, he'll never win them over, and they know he won't be there at the end of the season anyway! He's only holding the fort till Jose comes home!
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Problem with Jose is that he'll never last as he's not happy unless he gets things into a state of chaos after a few years as he seems to need something to rail against and I don't think RA will put up with it ( again).
I saw Hiddink actually had the best win ratio for you ( admittedly over a short period) and he seemed to leave on good terms with RA - maybe he'll suddenly appear!
Anyway, what am I saying?! I want someone absolutely feckin' useless to turn up "Rafa's a genius - he should get the job for life"
I saw Hiddink actually had the best win ratio for you ( admittedly over a short period) and he seemed to leave on good terms with RA - maybe he'll suddenly appear!
Anyway, what am I saying?! I want someone absolutely feckin' useless to turn up "Rafa's a genius - he should get the job for life"
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Or that AVB is doing pretty well at Spurs, maybe bring him back?
Or promote from within and let JT prove he really does know more than the manager!
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Let's wait and see what mood Chelsea are in because on their day and if they can be bothered they are still a different grade side.
Bookies offering 2/1 on United which I found rather generous
Bookies offering 2/1 on United which I found rather generous
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Neither team really turned up, but brilliantly taken Goal.
Hope you guys smash City in the Semi
Then get pipped by Millwall in the Final
Hope you guys smash City in the Semi
Then get pipped by Millwall in the Final