Im speechless! Totally shocked.....

 

I'm suprised it's murder, i thought i'd be manslaughter
I don't think they planned to kill the kids, i think they wanted a bigger council house (as others have suggested aswell) so torched their current house.

Absolutely disgusting, hope they both go down for life.

 

The bloke needs to be put infront of the firing squad.

I still can't get over the fact that he has Fathered 17 kids and think there's nothing wrong with any of it.

 

It is possible to get a murder conviction in circumstances where death or grievous bodily harm is an almost inevitable consequence of a criminal act. In this case they may not have intended to kill the kids, but if they were so stupid to start the fire in a way that was pretty much certain to kill or seriously injure someone in the house then they can be found guilty of murder.

Actually, stupidity will probably be their best defence, as the prosecution will have to prove that they understood death/serious injury was almost certain. Unless they really did intend to kill or maim one or more of the kids, I suspect it will get downgraded to manslaughter.

 

This is my opinion on it also. Set fire to it, let it burn for a bit, get the kids out and land themselves a massive new luxury house. Except it backfired and ended up killing 6 innocent young children.

Sick, twisted, low life scum.

 

There is a bit more to it than that.

The very same day as the fire Philpott was due to visit a civil court in a battle for custody rights against a number of his kids due to a messy split with his mistress - the mother of a number of those kids, she had moved out of the house during the split.

So if that was fact. Typically custody goes towards the mother in most cases, so he would have had his bigger council house denied anyway so setting fire to teh current one would have been pointless, unless he originally intended for the hallway to be redecorated.

(info: http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Fa...ail/story.html )

 

Basically, he lost 6 kids trying to rip the system to get a bigger house, rather than get a job. My God. I hope he rots in hell. RIP little ones

 

Setting fire to a property knowing someone was inside is premeditated, therefore not manslaughter - if that is in fact what has happened.

 

Im sure their lawyers will do what all scum bags do plead insanity

 

I believe there is precedent for it being murder even if the arsonist was not aware that there were people inside the building being torched.

I recall from studying law (only A level before I get any requests for free legal advice) that in one case a disgruntled partner set fire to their other half's house, killing a relative inside. The defence argued for manslaughter on the basis of the absence of mens rea for murder. However, the individual was charged with murder as it was argued that the act of setting fire to a property was so reckless and dangerous that any "reasonable person" would have known that it was likely to cause death.

 

If found gulity, may he spend the rest of his days with the requirement of wearing a tampax up his rear. Not sure about her yet.

 

I'm pretty sure she wears a tampax when not pregnant... Oh wait

 

That being the case - even better

 

I'm waiting for the lawyer to trot out "They won't get a fair trial" due to the amount of (negative) press interest which has surrounded the family for years, even though they were not forced to appear on shows such as Jeremy Kyle,

I do hope that the CPS do all they can to prevent any leaks before trial so that they do receive a fair trial - only so that the truth can be discovered and justice can be served on behalf of those who lost their lives, not allowing anyone on trial to get off on a technicality.

 

If you would like to refresh yourself, the CPS have all of the definitions online these days.

This link will take you to murder/manslaughter, plus there is a Familial Deaths section which is worth considering.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/h..._manslaughter/

 

That makes sense. I suppose it would be like getting a machine gun, wearing a blind-fold and going to a shopping centre and hosing the place down. It couldn't possibly be construed that any deaths are manslaughter so reckless is the act

 

Kind of a shame not all of the kids were inside , not very Christian I grant you

Pure scum , the guy was playing up for the cameras the interview - what man would be wiping , 'tears'
With specially prepared square hankie same as the thick as **** concubine

 

A bit harsh perhaps?

There may even be a small chance that some of the remaining kids may succeed in life. Must be pretty traumatic for them.

dl

 

Be even more traumatic for society if the parents are anything to go by


I hope you're right though

 

Until the matter has been dealt with in court, nothing has been proved yet and even if they have been charged it is wrong to assume that they actually murdered the children.

Les

 

Guilty!

Now there's a big shock....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21875816

 

he will get what he deserves when he get into the prison.

 

Utter utter scum, should face a firing squad

 

I hope the sentences for each killing run consecutively. Evil, effing b,astard.

dl

 

Pity we don't have hard labour here but then the liberals will be out no doubt complaining about his human rights. Hang him in public, what an absolute b8stard, if he had any decency he'd hang himself at the first opportunity and save us a load of money.

 

Pure S C U M .... End of.

Maybe they should administer petrol & burn his cell down whilst he's sleeping...

 

His anus is going to get absolutely ripped in prison.

 

realy realy dodgy family, if you can call it that

 

Idiot

 

I work just down the road from the Philpot house. A few yrs ago he had a Mitsubishi 3000GT. I saw him out in it a couple of times passing our office. Not bad when on benefits!