Just the Catty remarks, hmm, like a woman ?

This is the Scoobynet Tubbers thread, for chaps that want to lose the podge they have accumulated, the problem is with a lot of medical/health issues we tend to ignore things until they become a real problem, everyone has some issue in some aspect of their life, I am a bit fat, because I am a bit greedy and a bit lazy but am making an effort to make a change.

This thread seems to have had more positive replies that negative ones, so perhaps if you haven't any useful tips just leave it to me and the rest of the Fat Fighters.

 

That's it?! C'mon Spoon: I'm disappointed. These efforts have been SO below your usual ascerbic comments!!

 

Blame the management.

 

 

Catty!! FFS, it gets worse.

 

You are asking for it Spoon, I am "on" this week

 

Gone a bit quiet.

Has the weekend taken it's toll on the calorie counting?

 

either that, or we have lives away from SN

 

i make it about 500 cals for full english , is this about right ?


sausage 1
bacon 2
1 egg
mushroom
tomato
toast

 

grilled of course !

 

well, fwiw, we had my niece's birthday bbq yesterday.

I've got a limit of 1940 calories and came in just under, despite some over-indulgence in BBQ food

It was helpful that (a) the food was bbq'd - so all the fat dripped off the food. (b) the burgers & sausage was butcher-prepared and lean.

We'll see what happens today!!

Dan

 

Nope, been good, it has been a revelation, have realised I don't need alcohol to complete my weekend, went out with the wife for a drive in my car with the roof down, makes a nice change from a few cans of beer, I am not some reformed and zealous ex alcy, will re-introduce booze when I am down to a sensible weight but for now, not all that fussed. I have done 2 weeks now, can easily maintain this.

Im at 16.6, down from over 17.

 

Excellent app, my calorie allowance is 3210. Now where did I put that lard

User: SaintAAI

 

I had a terrible weekend food wise.
500 over on Saturday (McDonalds large milkshake...) and just snuck under yesterday but the food wasn't healthy.

 

Well done, you lads. I'm really impressed with you all
It's brilliant to see you all making an effort to get fit and healthy.
Out and about over the weekend, it was sickening to see the amount of men, with bellies hanging over their shorts. Bellies bigger than a wimmins 9 months pregnant. The dangers of blood pressure, heart attacks etc are all made the worse with having that big belly.
I think it's great that you lot are taking care of yourselves.

 

This weekend was shocking! Going to Center Parcs yesterday didnt help.

 

one really great bonus is not feeling the heat when you're much more slim

 

3210 calories, are you a medium sized Shire Horse with two jobs and an over active Thyroid ?

 

my thoughts were " are you a 8 stone 2lb, 5ft 3" person", how can you possibly get by on just that lol

but you have to take into account your bodytype along with everything else

im not very big these days but less than 3500kcals results in catabolism for me, from my experience - not good lol

 

Had my health MOT today. Apart from being overweight everything else was bang on, cholesterol, blood pressure, heart rate etc.
Quite a pleasant surprise really as been as I've not really took much notice what I've been eating for many years. Was told I should see a good difference once I've got a decent programme worked out for me in the gym (booked for Wednesday).

 

Is that if you are training ? I thought your BMR/TDEE didnt change much regardless of training and most calories are burnt through activity ?

I am working to 1500 cals at the moment, quality calories, not crap as a rule but am I in danger of causing myself issues, im losing weight but not really rapidly, it kind of fits in with me having a 1000 calorie or more deficit daily, i.e. a couple of pounds a week.

I am weighing myself every day at the moment and appreciate that weight will go up and down for other reaons other than fat loss, will back off once I get a feel for it.

 

kcals requiremnt is directly related to muscle mass. (amognst other things)

thats what ive said from the start - muscle is the metabolic factory for kcal burning, the less you have the less over maintenance kcal will result in weight stagnating and ultimiatley going back up.

portion reduction diets are ultimatley ineffective if they are not macro nutrient orientated

short term yes they will defo yeild results, long term its highly ulikley if macro nutrient levels are not considered and factored in, risk of failure is increased.

however explain BMR/TDEE to me so can be sure taliking about the same thing lol - if im mistaken then my post is irrelevant lol

 

i am eating 1950 to maintain my weight. i'd have to just eat cake to get past 3200 kcals!

 

BMR: Basal Metabolic Rate (But you knew that anyway), i.e. to stay alive if you were in a coma. For me it is circa 2000 calories, based on height, weight and age.

TDEE: Total Daily Energy Expenditure, BMR plus your normal activity level, usually split into categories, I count myself as a Desk Bound person, i.e. the lowest activity level which for me is 2400 calories. So 400 calories to drag mysefl across the car park, to the brew room and do stuff at home like loading the dishwasher.

I then add on the exercise, like my cycle to work and walking the Dog, working on 100 cals or so for a half hour dog walk and 500 for my 50 mins of cycling, so for a day where I do both I have probably used around 3000 calories which gives me a good defecit and probably a decent weight loss, today I got on the bike and the freewheel had locked up so no cycling, so will be less.

Am monitoring the amoutn of carbs, fats and Proteing, plus the usual other stuff.

 

just for an example

ten grams of protein while having the same kcal value as 10g of carbs will result in an differing weight net result

at 10g its going to be minimal, at higher levels over a significant time, it can become noticable.

 

very roughly

1gm proetin = 4kcal
1gm carb = 4kcal
1g fats = 9kcal

roughlty speaking - if you reduce all macros in a % reduction across the board, it cant be long term maintained (by the masses)

its the reason simple portion reduction diet cant work without macro %'s conidered, if tailor the macros if can be effective though

 

hard to get across, im not talking about being a bodyuilder ect ect

but the more muscle you have, just as a regular persons lifestyle would command then the more kcals are spent keeping it. i dont mean 21" arms or anythign. but as body composition changes so does the need for macro changes.
eg a regular diet you go from 4000kcals a day, in a 40/40 carb protien split and 20% fats - altho thats quite probably optimistic.
so you reduce total kcal intake to 2100 kcals say by working out kcal intake and spread it across meals = the net result is weight loss, to a point. after said point the muscle you had cant be maintained by your nutrient intke, so it reduces slightly -therefore your bmr reduces.
ultimatley you can end up eating the same amount of kcals but actually put on fat if its not tailored to you.
its whats reffered to as yo-yoing weights and is mentally and physically frustrating. and also why portion reduction diets without macro nutrient concern can never work long term.

 

According to the app I managed 4208 yesterday so I'm pleased with that. 1000 of those were from a couple of fruit flapjacks I thought were healthy. The nutritional info is not printed on the side, but scanning them came up with 500 calories each and full of fat and sugar so will not be eating those.
For people wondering, I'm using the app to try and help put weight on, while trying to see what ratios of carbs, protein and fat etc.. I struggle to gain weight, don't have an active job, but do train a lot.

I'm 6'4" and currently 96kg

 

How do you assess calories of something if it doesn't have a barcode.

I download app , but then thought , well I can just read what's on packet .


Maybe I'll have another go


Just burnt 237kcal on 12 miles cycle according computer , which didn't seem to be working quite lot time

 

this site is good, and covers just about every food you can think of
http://nutritiondata.self.com/