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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
It's easy to be a hard man inside a big vehicle.

Its seems just lately its easier to be a ***** and people let you get away with it ,Not this man sorry.

I was in a small van tony and i can easy go toe to toe with any man on the street especially the arrogant ****** around lately. But most men and i say men dont need to prove them selves.

That's right davey pushed me to far,But for some reason when i stopped he said sorry and said he was acting like a fool thinking that he could just walk in front of oncoming traffic Big mistake.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
Its seems just lately its easier to be a ***** and people let you get away with it ,Not this man sorry.

I was in a small van tony and i can easy go toe to toe with any man on the street especially the arrogant ****** around lately. But most men and i say men dont need to prove them selves.

That's right davey pushed me to far,But for some reason when i stopped he said sorry and said he was acting like a fool thinking that he could just walk in front of oncoming traffic Big mistake.
A small van vs a person is hardly a fair fight. If you are so tough why not get out and strike him instead of hiding inside 1 ton of steel and glass?

He may have been an idiot but what you did was not right.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Here's something that annoys me about car Drivers. How many know that a pedestrian crossing a road before they turn onto it has right of way? Happens so often that Drivers just drive like they have right of way in such a situation and the pedestrian has to stop or get run over.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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I think you are right tony it wasn't right what i did,Im not tough i didnt say i was tough ? But what i am trying to put across is that there is people men and women who just dont care any more and there is people who back them up and make them worse.

There needs to be a lesson learnt im sure he will never walk in front of traffic again,Where as if i would of bibbed me horn shouted idiot and drove off he would be no wiser what he was doing was also not right,Do you not agree.

As for getting out me van and banging him on the jaw,Now i would get nicked and im far to clever for that,Hitting him in me van he should of learnt his green cross code instead of smoking crack and robbing old It women.

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
I think you are right tony it wasn't right what i did,Im not tough i didnt say i was tough ? But what i am trying to put across is that there is people men and women who just dont care any more and there is people who back them up and make them worse.

There needs to be a lesson learnt im sure he will never walk in front of traffic again,Where as if i would of bibbed me horn shouted idiot and drove off he would be no wiser what he was doing was also not right,Do you not agree.

As for getting out me van and banging him on the jaw,Now i would get nicked and im far to clever for that,Hitting him in me van he should of learnt his green cross code instead of smoking crack and robbing old It women.
When I lived in Oz you would see stoned Abos do this all the time even on some of the most busy/fast roads. You just gonna stop for 'em.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
If he wound me up who know's what would happen, Some bloke was doing his hop skip bad man walk in front of me at some traffic lights so i gave him a little nudge with me van wing, soon stopped his arrogant skip hop chip on the shoulder **** .People push other people to the edge and when they crack they cry like pussies its simple .
The secret with that is just to wait and smile, they are after a reaction, why give them one.

I was on my bike a year or so back and some "lads" came out of the local and one did the "pimp limp" slowly in front of me, deliberately trying to stop me, I just slowed down, smiled and said "After you mate" all polite, and he was totally flumoxed, he was wanting to show his mates how tough he was and was ready to deal with any of my lip but he just got politeness, pointless little ****e he was, about 19, big Gold Chain like a plastic gangster, as I rode off I said "You look a right **** with that thing round your neck", cue much laughter from his two mates and me scooting off as fast as I could
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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Sorry you lost me buddy have a good day.


Im of out in me van
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
cue much laughter from his two mates and me scooting off as fast as I could
It's a times like that ones chain snaps or something.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
The secret with that is just to wait and smile, they are after a reaction, why give them one.

I was on my bike a year or so back and some "lads" came out of the local and one did the "pimp limp" slowly in front of me, deliberately trying to stop me, I just slowed down, smiled and said "After you mate" all polite, and he was totally flumoxed, he was wanting to show his mates how tough he was and was ready to deal with any of my lip but he just got politeness, pointless little ****e he was, about 19, big Gold Chain like a plastic gangster, as I rode off I said "You look a right **** with that thing round your neck", cue much laughter from his two mates and me scooting off as fast as I could
Secret??? I was doing 40mph as was the other 40+ cars behind me and the freek just walked off the path into us all now i could of slammed me brakes on killed the 2 kids in the car behind nahhhhh not me he got what he deserved right or wrong he wont be doing it again..

Its not like i was doing 10mph turned right and mowed a lad over on the high street now that would put me into the same book as the skip walking idiot..
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
If he wound me up who know's what would happen, Some bloke was doing his hop skip bad man walk in front of me at some traffic lights so i gave him a little nudge with me van wing, soon stopped his arrogant skip hop chip on the shoulder **** .People push other people to the edge and when they crack they cry like pussies its simple .
At least your username is apt

Edited to add that your later posts do make sense (an apology in a way )

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
At least your username is apt




Andy f did bring this to my attention many years ago
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD


Andy f did bring this to my attention many years ago


I have apologised with my edit
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
It amazes me there are people on here who think its acceptable to use their vehicle as a weapon. Shouldn't have a driving licence IMO
Retard mentality mate.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Looks to me like the bike was provoking the bus. As the video starts the bus seems to be trying to go round but the bike is moving further into the lane.

Bikers can be complete w*nkers and looks like this one provoked the wrong bus driver.

Obviously the bus driver shouldn't have done what he did but I don't think he just randomly drove into the biker.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Looks to me like the bike was provoking the bus. As the video starts the bus seems to be trying to go round but the bike is moving further into the lane.

Bikers can be complete w*nkers and looks like this one provoked the wrong bus driver.

Obviously the bus driver shouldn't have done what he did but I don't think he just randomly drove into the biker.
Edd - a standard defensive manoeuvre for a cyclist is to take primary on a lane when overtaking would be inadvisable. They were approaching a set of lights that can be seen to be on red (traffic starts coming across from the left during the video). Also the guy may have simply been moving out to the other lane to turn right, at which point the bus driver took umbrage and almost killed him.

There was a previous altercation that takes place off that video (but the start of which can be seen elsewhere) and apparently the cyclist flicked the windscreen wipers of the bus (speculation is that the poor road design had the bus squeezing the cyclist rather than waiting).

Obviously such an act warranted that display of assault don't you think?


(just to finish off - what many non cycling drivers fail to realise is that it is recommended to cycle approximately 2-3 ft out from the kerb ( 1/2 to 1m) as it gives you room to move when needed and stops the squeezes from impatient drivers - who generally just get held up a few yards down the road and get passed again anyway)
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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I cannot think of any action by the cyclist in that situation which would justify what the bus driver did.

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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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It is a hard one to put your finger on, no the cyclist didnt deserve that, but then again we are only seeing the consequences of previous actions (which we dont see).
IF the cyclist had been riding selflishly, blocking traffic etc, then the law should do something about it, the bus driver is out of order, yet the swerve before the bus driver "lost it" seemed to be on purpose, there was no indication of changing lanes to other road users, and whilst a cyclist should be given room as Keiran says, the centre of the road is taking the P a little.

Always 2 sides to any story, its just that we only see the incident and not the run up, so really no one can say either party is innocent.

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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Blimey he certainly took a tumble.That cyclist must of done something off camera that we don't know about.

The court was told Hill, a qualified driver with 10 years' experience, was previously of excellent character and his defence said the collision happened in "a moment of madness".

Now as a bus driver with 10 yrs behind the wheel,he must have to deal with cyclist and such every working day,so why did he snap at this one.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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I'd place a small wager on there being a review of his sentence which will then be lengthened as a result. dl
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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I'm trying hard here to understand why some people are almost defending attempted murder?

No, we don't know what happened before, but what the professional driver did was not exactly self defence!

In any other circumstance we would not be having a similar conversation. It's a good job some of you don't carry guns. I never see Damilola Taylors killers being defended. Maybe Damilola called them a name?!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Always 2 sides to any story, its just that we only see the incident and not the run up, so really no one can say either party is innocent.

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Come off it that is trite rubbish.

What could the cyclist have done to deserve a de facto attempt on his life?

Please think before you write.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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All IMHO - the cyclist was riding along like a ****, clearly he could have been closer to the pavement, staying safe, and still allowing the bus to pass (as well as the stream of cars behind the bus). The cyclist appears to be behaving like a pillock but what the bus driver then does is clearly insane as he could very easily have killed the cyclist. There is no excuse on this planet for the way the bus driver behaved, the fact the cyclist was being a *** just means he was being a ***... but if we ran over every *** we came across in real life SNet NSR would be deserted .... it's funny to watch the pro bikers support the cyclist and pro drivers the bus driver... wherein reality both were *****, albeit the driver decided to escalate it to attempted murder.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
All IMHO - the cyclist was riding along like a ****, clearly he could have been closer to the pavement, staying safe, and still allowing the bus to pass (as well as the stream of cars behind the bus). The cyclist appears to be behaving like a pillock but what the bus driver then does is clearly insane as he could very easily have killed the cyclist. There is no excuse on this planet for the way the bus driver behaved, the fact the cyclist was being a *** just means he was being a ***... but if we ran over every *** we came across in real life SNet NSR would be deserted .... it's funny to watch the pro bikers support the cyclist and pro drivers the bus driver... wherein reality both were *****, albeit the driver decided to escalate it to attempted murder.
Maybe the cyclist thought i'll get this bus driver ticked off,as i know nothing will happen to me,its not like he will even think about running me over is it,he's a bus driver oops.I'm not defending the Bus driver,whatever happened before that short video clip didn't call for the bus to be used as a weapon to possibly kill a person.But a guy who has been driving for 10 yrs+ and every working day is driving a bus in town/city centres etc,must of dealed with things like this numerous times,maybe this one just tipped him over the edge.
I suppose most of us here at some time have lost control and just snapped over something,and not thought of the consequences.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Obviously, it was totally unaccecptable what the bus driver did ( although he didnt actually attempt to drive over the cyclist-he just knocked him off).
I bet that cyclist will think twice next time he thinks he'll try winding up the vehicle behind!

Shocking to see, though.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbob
Bus 1 - 0 Bicycle.


But as a former member of the bus drivers club, thats shocking and he should be in jail for attempted murder!!
Bus drivers club Quality,can I join?
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
Maybe the cyclist thought i'll get this bus driver ticked off,as i know nothing will happen to me,its not like he will even think about running me over is it,he's a bus driver oops.I'm not defending the Bus driver,whatever happened before that short video clip didn't call for the bus to be used as a weapon to possibly kill a person.But a guy who has been driving for 10 yrs+ and every working day is driving a bus in town/city centres etc,must of dealed with things like this numerous times,maybe this one just tipped him over the edge.
I suppose most of us here at some time have lost control and just snapped over something,and not thought of the consequences.
So you you are not defending the bus driver BUT you are saying it is reasonable to suspect he was driven over the edge by a man on a push bike?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
So you you are not defending the bus driver BUT you are saying it is reasonable to suspect he was driven over the edge by a man on a push bike?
It's not 'reasonable' to suspect FFS, it's bloody obvious Regardless of if anybody thinks it's right or wrong, that's what happened. What do you think made the driver knock the cyclist off? The driver of the car 3 cars behind?

You could start an argument with yourself
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
So you you are not defending the bus driver BUT you are saying it is reasonable to suspect he was driven over the edge by a man on a push bike?
Well that's what it looks like doesn't it,have you seen the video.
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Originally Posted by azz250478
It's not 'reasonable' to suspect FFS, it's bloody obvious Regardless of if anybody thinks it's right or wrong, that's what happened. What do you think made the driver knock the cyclist off? The driver of the car 3 cars behind?

You could start an argument with yourself
I think it was his choice to try and kill the cyclist personally. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I think it was his choice to try and kill the cyclist personally. What do you think?
Just so we're clear, are you saying that anything the cyclist did that day didn't contribute to what happened?
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