Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

Raspberry Pi

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23 June 2012, 05:24 PM
  #31  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Typing this on my Raspberry Pi. Using a class 10 SD card, it is quick to boot, but trying to run a decent non hardware accelerate 1080P GUI is too much for it, it is like wading through treacle. Managed to remote desktop to Windows 7 laptop and it is still deathly slow.

The attraction is perhaps the GPIO pins and as an upgrade to a microcontroller board it is amazing, but in no way is it sensible for web browsing, thin client or response enough for an educational tool to teach visual based programming.

Now I have to scroll down to hit the reply button. It will lag horribly! CPUusage is hitting 100% as I type in this window and whilst it doesn't miss keystrokes it can easily be a few words behind my typing to actually display what I am typing.

Edit: above I'm missing the point, most microcontroller boards are way more expensive and way less powerful. Hopefully hardware accelerated GUI will be fine, we'll have to see. http://www.thesinglestep.org/thoughts/rspi/

Last edited by john banks; 23 June 2012 at 05:55 PM.
Old 23 June 2012, 07:45 PM
  #32  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Web browsing on a light switch was never going to be stellar.
Old 23 June 2012, 08:06 PM
  #33  
Ant
Scooby Regular
 
Ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Notts
Posts: 9,243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JackClark
Web browsing on a light switch was never going to be stellar.
Old 23 June 2012, 08:20 PM
  #34  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Made a box for it from here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:25100

Laser took 2 mins 30 to cut and engrave all the ports. Assembly took longer and I had to redo some of the panels as they were designed for M3 bolts and I only had M4.

Excuse the iPhone pic in poor light plus cat hairs:



Will see what developments ensue, I can see it controlling my garage doors very nicely, when I build the garage next year.

It could also make a very nice ECU too.

Last edited by john banks; 23 June 2012 at 08:23 PM.
Old 23 June 2012, 10:08 PM
  #35  
tarmac terror
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
tarmac terror's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,498
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nice job on the enclosure John, I was intending to buy one of these, but was a little bit put off by not having an enclosure for it, my plan was a bit more crude, with an ABS project box from Maplin!!!
Old 24 June 2012, 06:46 PM
  #36  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I take it all back, Quake 3 at 1080P is awesome and smooth. Can't get the sound to work though!

The GPU is quite something, the CPU is crap. Seems the wrong way around!
Old 25 June 2012, 01:39 PM
  #37  
joey_turbo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (26)
 
joey_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,547
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by john banks
I take it all back, Quake 3 at 1080P is awesome and smooth. Can't get the sound to work though!

The GPU is quite something, the CPU is crap. Seems the wrong way around!
On what operating system did you manage that?
I'm looking to use mine as a media player, and to run the Wii emulator, Dolphin.
Old 25 June 2012, 08:03 PM
  #38  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The standard Debian distribution.

It is so bulky and slow for GUI though, I suspect it will be much more usable with others like RISC OS.
Old 27 June 2012, 01:48 AM
  #39  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by john banks
The standard Debian distribution.

It is so bulky and slow for GUI though, I suspect it will be much more usable with others like RISC OS.
Have look on this,maybe help

http://pcper.com/news/Systems/Raspbe...Slice-Everyone


Jura
Old 27 June 2012, 12:07 PM
  #40  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The Debian squeeze is the one I've been using.

The whole bulk of an OS is interesting for devices like this that are a cross between a bare metal microcontroller and something that has a 1080P multimedia, DHCP IP address, USB host.

The R Pi seems compromised in that it sits uneasily in both camps - the CPU as presently programmed is too slow for the "computer" role, but the OS is too bulky and the GPIO pins are too limited for the "arduino replacement" role.
Old 27 June 2012, 08:55 PM
  #41  
mart360
Scooby Regular
 
mart360's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by john banks
The standard Debian distribution.

It is so bulky and slow for GUI though, I suspect it will be much more usable with others like RISC OS.

Hi John,

Re your case.... another string for the laser.....


get an ad on the bay and cut to order, shapes etc


Mart
Old 28 June 2012, 11:59 AM
  #42  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Marketing of the wife's new laser business is interesting. Work is increasing through her personal networking, visiting shops etc, enquiries coming through businesses for custom work through organic SEO, but since we haven't done any paid advertising and don't have distributors yet, the volumes are very low so far. She put a few products on Ebay and even though they were at cost they didn't sell, but did result in a few queries and sales for customised stuff.

Lots of people doing R Pi cases, but they seem to sell well, although what I showed is not our design.

I've been so busy with other stuff to know where she is on her marketing, but volume is my main anxiety/makes me impatient, previous work I've done has had an instant market as it steps into established roles or where demand was already present.
Old 03 July 2012, 09:38 AM
  #43  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

A friend of mine will be sending a Pi into space'ish to help send back live pictures, one takes 15 minutes currently, but double bandwidth for the flight. He's already an altitude record holder, with a good retrieve history, so a good bet it will be a success. Just waiting for the launch date. Good Pi right there.
Old 03 July 2012, 05:05 PM
  #44  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Sounds good. Any more info?
Old 03 July 2012, 06:36 PM
  #45  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

https://www.facebook.com/groups/138475046220867/
Old 14 July 2012, 11:40 AM
  #46  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Pi about to be in the sky http://spacenear.us/tracker/
Old 17 July 2012, 08:36 AM
  #47  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Write up

http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=592
Old 17 July 2012, 10:00 AM
  #48  
boxst
Scooby Regular
 
boxst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 11,905
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I finally got around to installing Raspbmc and it works very well.

I think it is a great bit of kit to get children into programming if they can be bothered. ICT at school is a joke and doesn't even explain about networks or how computers work just uses out of date software like serif to create posters.
Old 17 July 2012, 09:22 PM
  #49  
ahar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
ahar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Near Watford
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just got an email that mine is on the way. Been years since I did some 'proper' coding using UNIX...

As an aside, they're just about to release a new image of Debian that is coded to better use the hardware FPU - see http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1565 for a video of it web browsing a t a decent speed (albeit on a Pi that's been overclocked).
Old 19 July 2012, 01:52 PM
  #50  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18900862

Picked up the BBC.
Old 19 July 2012, 05:05 PM
  #51  
JackClark
Scooby Senior
 
JackClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Overdosed on LCD
Posts: 20,852
Received 51 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

http://twit.tv/show/triangulation/61

Good show, Balloon gets a mention around the 40 minute mark.
Old 17 November 2012, 10:08 AM
  #52  
DJ Dunk
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (5)
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 17,862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How's everyone getting on with their RPi's now?

Mines running as a web server hosting a light-use phpBB forum and a Wordpress blog. It's running Debian "Wheezy", Lighttpd Web Server, PHP in FastCGI, MySQL Server & PureFTPd. Simple enough to move over from my WAMPServer install and runs superbly. I fancy a new 512kb version now to do some more playing
Old 17 November 2012, 10:18 AM
  #53  
Ant
Scooby Regular
 
Ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Notts
Posts: 9,243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How are these running xbmc? What can it play comfortably?
Old 17 November 2012, 10:55 AM
  #54  
DJ Dunk
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (5)
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 17,862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Check out: http://www.raspbmc.com/ or http://openelec.tv/

Last edited by DJ Dunk; 17 November 2012 at 10:56 AM.
Old 19 November 2012, 06:52 AM
  #55  
Saint AAI
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Saint AAI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 964
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mines still in it's RS jiffy bag. Not touched it since powering it up to see if it worked. Keep forgetting I have it and have very little spare time.
Old 22 November 2012, 06:35 PM
  #56  
DJ Dunk
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (5)
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 17,862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just bought a second Pi One of the new 512k models. Will use the 512k as my web server and the other as a NAS and Samba backup server.
Old 23 November 2012, 11:04 AM
  #57  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Quite keen to try out the official RISC OS.
Old 25 November 2012, 01:14 PM
  #58  
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Typing this using RISC OS and it is quite fantastic. Responsive by modern PC standards using the desktop and internet. It doesn't have flash or javascript in the supplied browser so far. Even though I believe it is without GUI acceleration windows move with great fluidity. Best of all hit F12 and type "BASIC" and you are in a very fast BBC Basic and it apparently isn't too difficult to control the Raspberry Pi IO from there.
Old 25 November 2012, 09:02 PM
  #59  
mart360
Scooby Regular
 
mart360's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Its qoing to get a whole lot better very shortly

Android has been ported

First two goes were slow, but the third is meant to be very smooth and stable,

There just fianalising the package before release,

No app store included, but apparantly you can install APK's


Mame, mupen and FPSE here we come


oh and it runs XBMC too

Mart
Old 20 January 2013, 08:28 PM
  #60  
Markus
Scooby Regular
 
Markus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 25,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bit of a bump I know, but I've only just heard about these little things. I know, behind the times.

Does anyone have the Model B, i.e.; the latest one, and if so, how's XBMC on it? How does it compare to, for example, an Apple TV1 running XBMC? I have an ATV3 sitting in my living room, and I'm hoping for a JB so I can run XBMC on it - that or Apple pulls thumb out of **** and decides to allow app development for it and then XBMC gets ported to it, pretty unlikely though. I also have a DLNA compatible blu ray player, so can stream some media to it, but I'm wondering if a Pi could be a better solution to both of those, possibly replace my ATV1 with one.


Quick Reply: Raspberry Pi



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:17 PM.