banny sti

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He was at the UKBFF Leeds NE championship this weekend on gone as his training partner Paul Jenkins was competing and was good to catch up with him again.

Came down to our gym a few months back and have to respect the guys honesty and his desire to comeback from such a serious injury

jef

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yeah ive seen him do the british a few times now, hope he comes back.

JM was competing a drug tested, natural bodybuilding show there.

Trout

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...all women who seem more like blokes


Is there something you want to tell us Tel?

Tidgy

on the origional subject wtf has she done to herself????

she wasn't my fav looked celeb, but she wasn't the worst by a long shot, but now shes gash

TelBoy

Nope

Ant

Seeing as we have few clued up people here.

What's the best way to improve my bench press (lift more)

TelBoy

Eat more. Get a gym partner. Train beyond failure. Keep the reps down. Do more tricep and shoulder exercises too. Simples

J4CKO

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No point trying to understand it if you don't get it, its a bit of a subculture and people get caught up, its their body and its up to them what they do to it, done right it isn't harmful and as Jef says people criticising it are probably less healthy overall.

People pursue all sorts of hobbies and passions and I personally can cope with the odd bodybuilder and not be offended or feel threatened, they dotn walk round painted grown posing and gurning, back when I used to go they mostly just looked like beefy guys when clothed, the proper monsters tended not to be the competitive ones weirdly as I dont think they had the right look or inclination for the competitive circuit.

banny sti

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+1

Ant

So would you say do 5x5 of the maximum weight or build up to it ?

jef

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yip agree others.

but its time and consistancey that sees results, years, not months.

as for actual excersises the best thing to do is regularly cahnge your excersises.

each slight variation of the same movenet, hits the muscle slightly different way. meaning your muscle has to grow to adapt to that strain. and the micro tears youve caused.

worst thing you can do is just barbell bench press for chest for the rest of your days.

strength training slightly different imo. for out and out strength id do some more reading on techniques, my understanding is making muscle tissue grow in size - but weight levels are not as important for that

TelBoy

Build up to it. To increase your max, your heavy sets would ideally be 3 reps; one rep you do yourself, the second you struggle with, the third you need some assistance with. And do those heavy sets three times before coming back down. So a flat topped pyramid if you know what i mean.

But don't make all your workouts like that, mix it up. Continually pushing for a new best can make you more susceptible to injury.

Ant

Taking creatine before and whey after , is that ok for progress

All from myprotein

Thanks tel looks like im doing something right (pyramid)

J4CKO

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I pulled something in my back Bench Pressing, bad form and too much weight, still get some discomfort from it 14 years later, that was me trying to do too much too soon and get to the magic 100 kilo mark, you really need a spotter if you are pushing bigger weights and the minute you start struggling put the bloody thing down and take a bit of weight off. I kind of twisted and did something and it put me right off.

Don't get too caught up with what other people are lifting, what someone looks like and whether you are bigger doesn't always follow that you can lift more, remember a lot of people in gyms have been at it for years, I got caught up in the showing off thing, or at least trying to keep up.

Myles

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Concentrate on decline dumbbell press was the tip given to me. It worked for other people, my chest is that of a wood pigeon.

Ant

I just really need to improve my chest as its shocking , I'm quite strong everywhere else just I struggle to get past 50kg + Bar mark

TelBoy

I'm a big fan of creatine. Next best thing to steroids. Adds 10% to my weights i reckon. Protein is always worth taking, a good way of getting more calories without eating junk

TelBoy

Hmm, not sure. Decline presses build lower pecs more of course, whereas the effect of a big chest is best achieved by developing the "v" on the clavicle just below the neck. That comes from incline pressing. Also, dumbells lead to more injuries than bars, usually from the difficulty of getting them in place or dropping them afterwards. Wouldn't be my first choice.

bigsinky

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............stre et cred plumetting Tel

jef

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concentrate on eating more food. esp in the run up to a workout. to makemsure your fully glycogen loaded and have maximum potential energy.

also i wouldnt waste energy working up in too many sets, do 2-3 warm up sets, 1 of 80% max and then go for a few reps at your target weight, it will come. whey is essentail after training, as is carbs - to spike insulin and shuttle the nutrient to the musecle. your PWO and the meal after are arguably your most important meals of the day - and breakfast.
make sure your getting the most from your training by not skimping here.

creatine did nothing for me, but works for others, you wont know until you try, but if you eat a lot of red meat anyway its quite hi in creatine.

TelBoy

That was a bit "under 30" for me wasn't it

jef

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for growth, not necissarliy max strength gains, varience is the key. hit your chest from incline, flat and decline. use barbell, dumbells , machines.

each have there advantages - you have to work out your genetics through trial and error

altho for me incline and flat were always best, a big upper chest is impressive imo,

and for me, this the guy that started it all, with his great upper body genetic structure

davyboy

Is it a sport? More like a beauty contest.

jef

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davy your some guy, wheres the sexual attraction or beauty part?

we ALL know the vast majority of the population think the look is absolutley disgusting.

so why if its an attempt to attract a partner would i or anyone reduces there chances by so much by doing bodybuilding.

thats just what you think it is.

and for what its worth as i became more muscular it just so happened i got a lot more female attention - -possibly because i hit a few branches on the ugly tree on the way down to start with tho lol

banny sti

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Perfection

davyboy

You miss my point. I just don't see it as a sport.

The beauty part was more to do with those that go to they gym and get judged.

TelBoy

It's cardiovascular and it can be competitive.

What other attributes would it need in order to qualify as a sport for you?

tony de wonderful

Don't just do shoulders and chest, you'll end up with messed up posture and maybe shoulder impingement problems. Good all around strength and flexibility is the way to go.

jef

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dont understand the getting judged at the gym part?

its irrelevant wether you think its a sport - its subjective to individual interpritation. same as huge amounts of other activitues, motor racing in all its forms a sport?, clay pigeon shooting? horse racing? boxing? does it really matter what the term used to describe your activity is called?

whats your point, you dont see it as a sport therefore......?

Hysteria1983

I will ask for some advice too.

My knees are bloody killing me lately, particularly my right one. Could this be to do with stepping up my game with regards to exercise?
Is there a supplement I can take to help my joints?