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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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So? Tomorrow will see what?

Profit taking or further falls?

It's getting a wee bit concerning now ...
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Don't know but the Dow is down over 4% or 450 points at the moment.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Today felt closer to the edge than any previous day. A sense of impending doom. They're trying so hard to prevent Greece defaulting, thereby making the fallout that much harder to contain when it does inevitably happen. If Spain gets dragged into the mire, then the Euro could be toast. We cannot go on like this.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Thing is ... the world knows that Greece is doomed, it HAS to default ... there is no option.

And when it does it will be a part payment ... like 10p in the £ ... and, of course, Spain/Ireland/Portugal/Italy will want to do the same!!

Slight snag is that someone has to pay .... and who will stand up and do that? Germany will - of course, the UK will step in as we will have to ..... it's going to be sh*t!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Will we all end up speaking german?
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Nine !!!!!!!!...
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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It was only weeks ago that traders were pronouncing that SocGen only had hours to survive.

The problem is that the market is just full of rumours.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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What kind of sick mind would generate negatives?
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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What will happen exactly if Greece does "default"?
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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We all get to buy REALLY cheap Greek properties
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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We all get to buy REALLY cheap Greek properties
As long as they're not "timeshare"!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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http://www.bnet.com/blog/sports-ente...-defaults/1404
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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The head of the monetary system does not think there will be a double dip recession but if Greece and Italy go down it will bring a world of pain
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Reading that Greece have stepped up their cuts program .... but now there are more 24hour strikes. The Greeks just won't accept that they have had an easy ride since the Euro and they have to re-pay their borrowings.

The US is pumping $400billion into their system .... you simply cannot continue to do this, just delaying payback day.

The UK is about to pump £billions into our economy .... again, that will show weakness and encourage inflation and higher interest rates down the line, and MORE cuts in the future.

The Eurozone as a whole is in big trouble - Germany cannot bail everyone out ... there WILL be a Greek default and then the rest will follow. Greece will agree to repay 10p in every £ (or whatever the currency is then) ... Portugal, Ireland, Spain and others will want some of THAT! They will all default!

I cannot see that we will get through this without some massive correction in the economies .... closer to home, personal debt is huge - based on that house of cards, the housing market! I can see that there will be no mortgages available very soon and the only buyers will be cash buyers ..... and they will be looking for cut price properties to rent to those who cannot afford to own.

It's going to be a rough ride from here on in ........ 10 years before it resumes to anything like it was. And never will we see the years of plenty as we have had in the past.
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What kind of sick mind would generate negatives?
Who indeed?!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Today felt closer to the edge than any previous day. A sense of impending doom. They're trying so hard to prevent Greece defaulting, thereby making the fallout that much harder to contain when it does inevitably happen. If Spain gets dragged into the mire, then the Euro could be toast. We cannot go on like this.
Exactly. The stubbornness of those playing a political game ends in ruin for everyone. History repeats, as they say.
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I'm making sure I don't have more than 85k in one institution.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
It will be a repeat of Austria and Germany after the 1st world war!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I'm making sure I don't have more than 85k in one institution.
I'm a bit knackered on that front ..... I have spread as much as I can, but it's not as simple as it may seem - depends on UK Licences and if they are seperate even though the same Institution.

Never before have I had money ... now that I do, it's a sodding handicap!!
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm a bit knackered on that front ..... I have spread as much as I can, but it's not as simple as it may seem - depends on UK Licences and if they are seperate even though the same Institution.

Never before have I had money ... now that I do, it's a sodding handicap!!
Ha ha Pete bugger off.

Here's a list of institutions covered, are you saying you can put 85k in each one?


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Are you trying to say that ALL those are independant of each other?

For example - Coventry BS are also now Stroud & Swindon ... I had accounts with both and had to empty one when they merged.

Also, I'm not going to put my money anywhere not paying 3% ... which, I suppose limits it a bit further.

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Theres about 10 banks there in reality
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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Pete - have you put any of your money into NS&I?

I understand they might have stopped it now, but they were paying inflation rate (not sure if it was CPI or RPI) + 0.5% not long ago.
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Nice statistic; Apple, close to many people's hearts on here, is now worth more than ALL European banks combined. Scary.
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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And has more money than the US Government.
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Are you trying to say that ALL those are independant of each other?

For example - Coventry BS are also now Stroud & Swindon ... I had accounts with both and had to empty one when they merged.

Also, I'm not going to put my money anywhere not paying 3% ... which, I suppose limits it a bit further.
That's true but I am sure you know exactly how many institutions there are, because of the research you did when it came to investing your millions in cash?
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Pete - have you put any of your money into NS&I?

I understand they might have stopped it now, but they were paying inflation rate (not sure if it was CPI or RPI) + 0.5% not long ago.
I did, but there was a maximum amount of £15,000 ...... even putting in for the wife too it just took care of £30,000 which, let's be honest, is a pathetic maximum!

In the end they messed me about so much I told them to give me all my money back and some compensation for my hassle, which they did ...... I think I plonked it in the Post Office - which is the Bank of Ireland (so, I shall have to move that too, as Ireland are going down the tubes with Greece!).

It's an utter damned mess trying to safeguard your investments!!

My shares have taken such a hammering that it's pointless selling ... it used to be so, so, simple!
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G20 have promised to bail out the Euro banks.
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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^^ With What? ^^
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Ireland going down the tubes. FFS Pete do you know anything about this other than what Robert Peston said on the News a few months ago? Ireland are now NOT in the spotlight, i refuse to waste finger energy typing out the reasons for you.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
^^ With What? ^^
Sovereign debt presumably?
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