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Old 10 June 2011, 12:13 PM
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Just goes to show how good rally drivers REALLY are! brilliant car control!
Old 10 June 2011, 12:37 PM
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What a save.......



The co-driver is a seriously cool customer as well
Old 10 June 2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by juggers
*** me how on earth did he hold it at that speed ????????
If you ever get the chance of a run in a rallycar with a good and proper rally driver, pay attention to his hand and feet and angle of car.

Its a real eye opener I can tell you.
For those who are fans, I had the pleasure of a passenger run with the late great Bertie Fisher in his Group "A" Impreza on several different occasions.
Old 10 June 2011, 01:02 PM
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love it.

massive moment, just knock it down and foot to the boards.

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Originally Posted by urban
If you ever get the chance of a run in a rallycar with a good and proper rally driver, pay attention to his hand and feet and angle of car.

Its a real eye opener I can tell you.
For those who are fans, I had the pleasure of a passenger run with the late great Bertie Fisher in his Group "A" Impreza on several different occasions.
Old 10 June 2011, 01:11 PM
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just looking at that vid, Mark is driving and talking.
Old 10 June 2011, 03:02 PM
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Where's the vid gone?
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
Where's the vid gone?
Page 3
Old 10 June 2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Page 3
It wouldn't load but it's just my icuff device!

Going to fire the laptop up
Old 10 June 2011, 03:43 PM
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He should have finished his real on slicks lap by now.

Anyone out there watching?
Old 10 June 2011, 04:33 PM
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Mark just did the lap, 115.356 mph woop woop top speed on sulby straight 162mph fantastic nice one Mark
Old 10 June 2011, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wr pete
Mark just did the lap, 115.356 mph woop woop top speed on sulby straight 162mph fantastic nice one Mark

On slicks?
Old 10 June 2011, 05:14 PM
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Take a look at how cool that american stays!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdgQ...feature=relmfu

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No mate, he was on Pirelli road tyres
Old 10 June 2011, 07:49 PM
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he didnt get much time though he was sat in pits with no wheels on, and the guy was like your going out now! he didnt look impressed but did it well anyway!
Old 10 June 2011, 07:56 PM
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That save was WTF

We want whole movie
Old 10 June 2011, 08:49 PM
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holy **** amazing hand speed
Old 13 June 2011, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EngineMapper
A few hours of playing on the dyno resulted in some reasonable numbers for which the race fuel was optimised at. I'm sorry I can't post any dyno graphs at this time as I'm not allowed, want to keep you guessing me thinks!
Graham,

Did you get a good look at the exhaust?
Old 13 June 2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Graham,

Did you get a good look at the exhaust?
In Mark Higgins interview he said about 350bhp. Makes you wonder what a Time Attack scooby could manage
Old 13 June 2011, 04:14 PM
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On race fuel I would estimate close to 400bhp personally. They can map to around 360 on V-Power - so race fuel should net a big chunk.
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Depends how save it was mapped. Bear in mind running the car's running a TMIC so I recon a decent safety margin for charge temps would be left in.

Probably right though, a few more than 350bhp.

Anders
Old 13 June 2011, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
On race fuel I would estimate close to 400bhp personally. They can map to around 360 on V-Power - so race fuel should net a big chunk.
It can't be 400bhp, it must be closer to 300bhp.
It is isn't then Subaru will get done by advertising standards

The WRX STI used for the record breaking run was a standard Subaru production car, equipped with a 300PS Horizontally-Opposed Boxer engine, unmodified brake callipers and with road-legal Pirelli P Zero Trofeo tyres. Springs and dampers were adjusted to minimise any potential damage when the car encountering the various bumps and jumps at high speed along the course.
Old 13 June 2011, 05:19 PM
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It was far from standard production. I too read that. Its had an exhaust and remap on race fuel. It's got a lot of power!
Old 13 June 2011, 05:23 PM
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Awesome save & driving!
Old 13 June 2011, 06:16 PM
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About 350bhp from what I've heard, the exhaust was a straight through system designed so people could hear it coming apparently
Old 14 June 2011, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
It was far from standard production. I too read that. Its had an exhaust and remap on race fuel. It's got a lot of power!
From the horse's mouth - see lower down in interview with Max Rally:

Record breaking with Mark Higgins
Features10th June 2011
By Rebecca Jones

On Monday (6th June 2011), Mark Higgins broke Tony Pond’s 21-year standing TT Races circuit record in a US production-spec Subaru WRX STI. He averaged 113.5mph around the 37-mile course that works its way around the mountain roads of the Isle of Man. Yesterday, I travelled over to the home of the Manxman, to watch him take on the circuit for the second time, find out what modifications had been done to the car and ask him what it meant to break the record.

Q: Congratulations Mark, how does it feel?

MH: It’s a dream come true! To break Tony Pond’s record is one of my greatest acheivements.



Q: When Tony Pond set the record 21 years ago you were in your teens…

MH: Erm, unfortunately not, no. But thanks anyway! I’m forty now... Oh hang on, yes, I was, I was 19!



Q: What do you remember?

MH: Well actually, the year that Tony set the record was the last time I was on the Isle of Man for the TT Races. This has always been a busy week in the rally calendar, so I’ve never been able to come back, although I’ve tried on numerous occasions. I was a great fan of Tony, he won the most Manx Rallies at that point. Ironically, we only took over his record two years ago with Subaru when we won five Manx Rallies.



Q: So, is this something you’ve wanted to do for a long time?

MH: I’ve been trying to get it to happen for about ten years with different manufacturers, but it’s so difficult. When the opportunity came up with Subaru I jumped at the chance.



Q: At the time that Tony set the record, did you think, "I can beat that"?

MH: No, even before doing the lap on Monday, I wasn't confident I could do the 100mph lap… and that’s genuine. I know the guy that built Tony’s car and they put a lot of work into it. When Tony came here in 1988 he was nowhere near the 100mph mark, so they went away to totally re-do the car and they spent a lot on development and testing.

We’ve come here with a car that is very stock. I’d not driven the car before I came onto the island. I’d taken a couple of times going up the mountain and looked at the top speeds of the road car. We were only five or ten miles an hour more than Tony, at the top speed. And I thought, we’ve moved twenty years on, we’re not on a slick tyre, which is a big factor, and we hadn’t done any testing for here. The biggest surprise of all was when I found out I’d done 113.5mph.



Q: And, timewise, do you know how much faster that it?

MH: Yeah, it’s about 2 minutes faster. Everybody thinks, yeah you’ll go faster, but I didn’t actually equate how many minutes you have to shave off to get the extra miles per hour. For every two and a half miles an hour faster you have to finish 30 seconds sooner.



Q: So, can you run me through the car, what modifications have been made?

MH: Yeah it’s a 2.5 llitre American production-spec Subaru 2011 STI. It’s got modified brake pads, but we’ve kept all the brakes the same. We’ve put a Fire Eater system in for safety, as well as the roll cage the seats and the harness. In terms of the engine, they’ve taken the speed limiter off; it’s really geared for 155mph but we managed to get 162mph out of it, so they’ve been into the map to do that.

The reason it sounds very different is the exhaust. We’ve put a rally exhaust on, which is a requirement of the organisers so they can hear us coming. In terms of performance and safety we’ve put rally suspension on. So, we’ve got tame dampers, which are what you’d use on the Manx Rally, so, probably a bit soft for this course. But, with the jumps and the high speeds it would have been a bit silly to have a standard road set-up.



Q: But power-wise, fairly stock?

MH: Yeah. A standard stock car is about 305 bhp and we’re getting about 350, with the extra air from the exhaust, that's about what you'd expect.



Q: A lot of people on Twitter want to know if a proper rally car, Group N or WRC, would go much faster…

MH: From a chassis point-of-view, obviously, it would be a lot better. Power-wise, you’d have to de-restrict the engine because the WRC car is restricted to 34mm. This car has no restrictor so we’ve actually got more power in terms of top-end speed, but chassis-wise there’s a world of difference... with a World Rally Car, not so much Group N.



Q: If you could drive the circuit in any car, what would it be?

MH: Well, it would have to be a Subaru on Pirelli tyres! I suppose you could look at Le Mans-type cars, but really you’d have to design one especially for the course.
Old 14 June 2011, 10:28 AM
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My mate went out to see the TT as he was a bike nutter, and I told him Subaru were over there so I got him to take some pics

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...6&l=5f13636c86
Old 14 June 2011, 12:32 PM
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there were cameras all over the car. Anyone know when the full lap is coming out on Dvd?
Old 14 June 2011, 12:38 PM
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Check these out

http://youtu.be/SfdgQSkiYIQ

http://youtu.be/9jSYiU-JdRw
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Originally Posted by Barty77
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