Oh guess who I work for then?
And all the mobile networks suffered the same issues.

Tony

 

That's where you lost me, Vodafone had the same issues as O2? Vodafone we're selling Android phones before iPhones and yet the iPhone causes them the same issues as O2. Do you see why you're statements confuse me?

 

Your grammar confuses me

 

Give a bloke a break, just off a transatlantic flight

 

* cough..bull****...ahem *

 

It shouldn't confuse you, you keep saying the iPhone is the best smartphone, before it came along the smartphone Market was quite small, the iPhone 3G caused quite a few issues which O2 sorted out (always a benefit of being first ) the other networks didn't really have problems until the 4, but I'm not going into the issues but the iPhone is probably THE most demanding smartphone to date (hence O2 also offered free wi-fi via the cloud).

Tony

 

I think we should leave it there Tony, I say tomato you say tomato. The big difference is you work for O2 and the nonsense you're spouting might change your career path, my nonsense changes nothing.

 

How little you know Jack, shows how short sighted you are, absolutely no clue on how things actually work hence why I'm an engineer who understands these things and your not.

Tony

 

You think it was an engineering decision?

 

careful! I have got no idea what you two are bickering about but I do remember last time you mentioned you were talking about being an o2 engineer you came out with a load of waffle....

tonys first day at work

 

Seems you cant talk to an imbecile without them coming up with a stupid answer...
Jack, as you have no understanding how your phone communicates, leave it to the professionals will you? and just stick to apps

Tony

 

Keep going Tony, your insults run off my back. How does my phone communicate Tony? Teach us something whilst we wait for the no doubt awesome 4.3 update.

 

Few sites reporting it could be today it comes

 

Downloading.

 

swiss is slow on the ball

 

My iPhone 4 and my Gfs 3GS is now running the update

 

Well you seem to think ios 4.3 is awesome so as you know it all (ie you have no idea ) you can tell us how ios 4.3 makes your phone work on a mobile network (remembering all those other phones out there run software that makes their phones work too)

Tony

 

You're the expert Tony, you work for O2. I just say the iPhone is the best all the time.

4.3 is awesome by the way, Home Sharing is a win for everyone with an iOS device and a computer running iTunes, thanks Apple for making it easy.

 

homeshare is the only thing i'm looking forward to, waiting on a jailbreak first though

 

Pretty good so far, streaming all video/audio from my iTunes library.

Other than that I doubt I'll notice any difference, that is until Tony tell us the secrets of mobile telecommunications after that I'm sure more benefits will become apparent. Can't wait to use his skills to market my own products.

 

You think, all done ages ago

 

Why would you want to stream in your home to your phone? Sure any extra features are nice to have, just don't see the need for this one. If your in the home, why not stream to your tv or stereo?

 

I have more songs On my computer then I do my phone and my computer is nowhere near my av unit so I just plug the phone in and play all my music through it.

 

I am sure that O2 offered Cloud and BT Openzone access as part of the iPhone tariffs to reduce the strain on their network (knowing potentially how much data was going to be used) and to ensure a decent experience for iPhone customers who were not in 3G enabled areas.

The tariff caps were brought in due to the proliferation of data hungry smartphones whether these be iPhone, Blackberry, Android or Windoze 7. Again due to the mobile companies wanting to limit data traffic and ensure a decent experience for all users and to minimise the potential effect on their infrastructure.

Jason

 

Update hasn't stopped my 3gs from crashing during phone calls. This phone is good at almost eveything except being a phone

 

Thats the same as mate of mine says about his iPhone 4. Brilliant at everything else he uses it for except making phone calls!

I know a couple of people that have traded them in for Blackberry's for the same reason as they needed a reliable phone!

 

I had two 3Gs's (the second was a replacment for the first faulty one) that did that ... they just lost signal for no reason and could only be recocered by a reboot. Could be in the middle of a call or when just sat there doing nothing.

 

Mine just reboots while in the middle of a call. Sometimes it's fine, and sometimes it will reboot 30 seconds into a call. It's pretty useless as it has made the phone completely unreliable for calls.

There is a long thread on the Apple forums about this (and loads on the iterweb in general), as this bug seems to have been introduced with the original ios4 update. 7 months on, and APple still hasn't ackowledged that it's a problem however. Talk about great customer support...

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....t=165&tstart=0

 

That made me laugh that much
Sorry Jack, it really shows you have no clue
My skills are somewhat beyond yours Jack (along with the equipments used), and if you think you could actually use them to your benefit? you really are in land

As you can see by the other posts about the software "glitches" the Iphones suffer from (Iain, not had that problem, then again ive not upgraded from ios4.0 on my 3gs due to reported issues, as you say its apple customer care), it took apple to the release of the iphone 4 to sort out the 2g/3g issues that the iphone 3 and 3gs suffered (another brilliant bit of software there too), take note Jack, best phone on the market? please dont make me laugh one of the worst yes, best user interface, probably, best for apps, probably, definately not the best MS.

Jason, pretty much right on there, the data growth really took off from the Iphone 3, there were smart phones around before then but it was like 3g, it was there but no one really bothered with it (mainly because 2g did everything people wanted), when the iphone 2g came out there was an increase in data (as you would expect) but it was not on the sort of level you had when the 3G came out and really started to test the 3G side of mobile networks (considering 3G wasnt designed to take this sort of constant data of streaming/downloading, hence why LTE is designed for this), and the issues with radio bandwidth due to burst transmission and signalling capability of networks can also become apparent.
All the networks have had to increase their data capacity, the growth is to say the least, "extreme", and the future is seen by the telecoms industry that there will be no real money in data, unless you really start charging for going over, another reason they capped data useage now.

IOS4.3.... ill give it some time before I down load it onto the works phone it definately wont be going on my 3GS

Tony

 

Your childish comments and outright insults lead me to assume you hold a low grade position within O2, I've met with thought leaders within O2 and other mobile networks and have learnt from them. You have nothing to offer and prove this every time you post.