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Old 06 January 2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Grahamwrx
Don't get me wrong, If subaru had a new car that had similar presence at a comparible cost maybe i would have stayed with subaru but 26k versus 33k was a no brainer for me and also the option to go up to 350bhp for the warrented upgrade appealed to me.
I see critisism of the interior but its still an improvement on my last scooby although i have not seen the latest impreza interiors.
And there's the rub. Subaru are just no longer in the same game. £33K is ludicrous.

Oh and the new interior whilst an improvement on previous Imprezas is still not that great.
Old 06 January 2011, 12:27 PM
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£20k max is hot hatch money. £25k plus is just getting silly.
Old 06 January 2011, 12:41 PM
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I know where your coming from and i would have preferred a 4 door saloon, but the focus is not that much smaller than the impreza and in some ways more practical with the hatch.
For me it was all about maintaining the driving experience with a new car at around the 25k mark.

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Old 06 January 2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
I don't believe the awd test mule story, even if they did make one they prob just did it to say "we made one and it was crap" so when they got asked why it was fwd they had the perfect answer that people could replay on forums all over the world.
Regardless of what you believe James, there was also a mkI 4WD mule
Old 06 January 2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Grahamwrx
i've just replaced my 06 STi Hawkeye with an FRS mk2 and am well satisfied.
Obviously with the recent weather i've missed the AWD but the overall package for me is an improvement on the STi.
The power delivery is smoother and more progressive, i no longer drop down the extra gear for overtaking, and the engine and exhaust note match the scooby in standard spec!

Don't get me wrong, If subaru had a new car that had similar presence at a comparible cost maybe i would have stayed with subaru but 26k versus 33k was a no brainer for me and also the option to go up to 350bhp for the warrented upgrade appealed to me.
I see critisism of the interior but its still an improvement on my last scooby although i have not seen the latest impreza interiors.

Early days but first impressions are good!


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During the short test that I had in the Focus, I estimated the 50-70 mph in top gear to be around 8 seconds, which was disappointing and a bit sluggish in comparison to Imprezas that I have driven.
Old 06 January 2011, 02:01 PM
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I can only compare to my last car which was completely standard.
With my butt dyno, RS seams marginally quicker through the gears (disregarding less traction in 1st) but definantly pulls better than the STi between 2500-3500

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Old 07 January 2011, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by paulbu
During the short test that I had in the Focus, I estimated the 50-70 mph in top gear to be around 8 seconds, which was disappointing and a bit sluggish in comparison to Imprezas that I have driven.
in 6th gear ? from 50 in a car thats geared to do 164 mph...come on, i do it in 4th or 3rd
Old 08 January 2011, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Grahamwrx
i've just replaced my 06 STi Hawkeye with an FRS mk2 and am well satisfied.
Obviously with the recent weather i've missed the AWD but the overall package for me is an improvement on the STi.
The power delivery is smoother and more progressive, i no longer drop down the extra gear for overtaking, and the engine and exhaust note match the scooby in standard spec!

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I agree with your comments but my response was to Graham's suggestion that the RS Focus has excellent acceleration for overtaking when in a high gear with no need to change down. 50-70 mph time is an apt test for this scenario and 8 seconds is well short of class leading.
Old 08 January 2011, 02:49 AM
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mine made 397 ft of torque and it pulls like a train in every gear
i might have rose tinted glasses but ive had it to 150 and it was still pulling
Old 08 January 2011, 03:12 AM
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When i visit my friend his driveway gets a bit of attention... My grey V5 Type R, mates white DC5 Type R & his older bro's bright green Focus RS
Old 08 January 2011, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
mine made 397 ft of torque and it pulls like a train in every gear
i might have rose tinted glasses but ive had it to 150 and it was still pulling
Doing 150 mph on the rare occasion that you can find 5 miles of deserted motorway is little to do with a cars mid range overtaking ability in top gear.
Old 08 January 2011, 05:01 PM
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more like one mile and i dident say it did,the RS has tons of midrange and id id gladley put it against any slightly modded scooby
im not for one minate saying it would p1ss allover it but im sure it would be as good
Old 08 January 2011, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
The fwd handiling as it is is practically perfect for a road car, MUCH better than any stock evo or impreza i have ever driven or experienced.
FPMSL

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Old 08 January 2011, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
more like one mile and i dident say it did,the RS has tons of midrange and id id gladley put it against any slightly modded scooby
im not for one minate saying it would p1ss allover it but im sure it would be as good
Great opportunity at Marham this year then re 30-130 challenge ... you can't even use the standing start poor traction excuse

TX.
Old 08 January 2011, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
FPMSL

TX.
Handling was the key word in Frayz post not mechanical grip
Old 08 January 2011, 08:28 PM
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Has anyone here had any braking issues with Focus RS's as i understand there is a recall out there which relates to vacum loss causing an unexpected and potentially dangerous loss of braking effort? Surely the last thing you want on a performance car.
Old 08 January 2011, 08:40 PM
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my best mates older brother got a second hand focus rs mk2 reciently,
knowing im into performance cars he took me out for a blast as a passenger on a cold wet road.
i did think it was to bad, do not remember it wheel spinning all the time.
look awesome in white
Old 08 January 2011, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
more like one mile and i dident say it did,the RS has tons of midrange and id id gladley put it against any slightly modded scooby
im not for one minate saying it would p1ss allover it but im sure it would be as good
You'd have no chance if the roads were mildly damp


I did really fancy a Focus RS, but I know whats its like with loads of torque and FWD - my turbo diesel spins its wheels even in 3rd gear

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Old 08 January 2011, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Who
Has anyone here had any braking issues with Focus RS's as i understand there is a recall out there which relates to vacum loss causing an unexpected and potentially dangerous loss of braking effort? Surely the last thing you want on a performance car.
only in high altitude countrys, its a recall to update the pcm and something else silly(cant remember what), its not a major concern you would just get a harder pedal and unlikely to be a issue in this country
Old 09 January 2011, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by techno_brat
bambi found it hard enough on ice with awd, god knows how it would of went with only fwd ha ha
Bambi, she was a noob!
Old 09 January 2011, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Herbie.
You'd have no chance if the roads were mildly damp


I did really fancy a Focus RS, but I know whats its like with loads of torque and FWD - my turbo diesel spins its wheels even in 3rd gear
I had a diesel hire car focus, i could [and did ] spin that more than the RS
Old 09 January 2011, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Great opportunity at Marham this year then re 30-130 challenge ... you can't even use the standing start poor traction excuse

TX.
dont need to i caught a scooby coming of a roundabout tonight onto a duel carageway
from about 30 to ???
Old 09 January 2011, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Herbie.
I did really fancy a Focus RS, but I know whats its like with loads of torque and FWD - my turbo diesel spins its wheels even in 3rd gear
Yeah but the Focus RS is probbaly much better set up suspension and chassis wise than some old turbo diesel repmobile so while it may still be able to spin its wheels in some circumstances I suspect it will be a lot less than you think.
Old 09 January 2011, 10:34 AM
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Yeah probably wrong to compare it with my torquey oil burner. There seems to be loads of focus RS's for sale online, there must be a reason this lol.

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Old 09 January 2011, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
Handling was the key word in Frayz post not mechanical grip
Not forgetting that grip is a fundemental part of handling?
Old 09 January 2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gallois
Not forgetting that grip is a fundemental part of handling?
as are all the parts that make up the chassis dynamics; steering feedback, poise, balance, body roll, etc all add up to the handling characteristics of the car...you don't need lots of grip to have a great handling car, well imo anyway
Old 09 January 2011, 01:27 PM
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PMSL at all the idiots with the blinkers on. How many of you saying its crap have actually driven one?
Old 09 January 2011, 02:53 PM
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In answer to Paulbu 's statement that 50-70mph in 8 seconds is not so impressive (something i've not checked 1st hand or with official RS test figures), I see subarus own figures are 9.1 seconds for standard 2006 sti and 8 seconds for PPP version (taken from PPP data sheet), which more or less corroberates my gut feeling about the RS !

I must add though that at 50-70 it is only revving at 1900 to 2600 which nobody is really interssted in, in my previous post (96) I was stating an improvement over the impreza from 2500 to 3500rpm.

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Originally Posted by Grahamwrx
i've just replaced my 06 STi Hawkeye with an FRS mk2 and am well satisfied.
Obviously with the recent weather i've missed the AWD but the overall package for me is an improvement on the STi.
The power delivery is smoother and more progressive, i no longer drop down the extra gear for overtaking, and the engine and exhaust note match the scooby in standard spec!

PaulWRXBoro
I agree with your comments but my response was to Graham's suggestion that the RS Focus has excellent acceleration for overtaking when in a high gear with no need to change down. 50-70 mph time is an apt test for this scenario and 8 seconds is well short of class leading.

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Old 09 January 2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
dont need to i caught a scooby coming of a roundabout tonight onto a duel carageway
from about 30 to ???
Come along as I'd like to see this beast of a car trounce all the scoobs!

TX.
Old 09 January 2011, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Come along as I'd like to see this beast of a car trounce all the scoobs!

TX.
your words not mine ...its to far, but sounds like a good day


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