Panorama tonight BBC
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You missed out a
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...or did you...and leave the yid alone
J Taylor - my point about any faith school is that any faith school that is teaching values that are not in line with this countries laws and culture teach intolerance and hatred are a serious problem and need to be stopped and regulated/regularly assessed. Yes the program is focussed on the Muslim faith and particular schools but my point is valid and relevant and i am not one to singularly blame some Muslim schools alone and regulate and inspect just Muslim schools as i cannot think of too many ways of excluding and disenfranchising and recruiting people to an extreme view other than by singling them out and then victimising them. All schools should be inspected regardless of faith and full or part time education and all loop-holes closed.
you must be fair, open and honest about how and who you inspect. The results will speak for themselves.
I managed to catch some of the programme as well as getting two badly behaved (was it a full moon???) kids to bed and more importantly to sleep. It appeared that Panorama was accusing some Islamic schools of allowing preachings of hate by certain people/clerics/scholars one in particular who has a history of anti Semitic and anti anybody else's views and religions and the venues and their owners/trustees where deigning that the content was either allowed in front of children/pupils.
Even so i find it bad that anybody is allowed to preach intolerance and hatred and imagine this.
Nick Griffin or Combat18 going into schools with a couple of far right wing speakers and preaching to a purely white audience of kids intolerance and mistrust of other cultures - there would be an outcry and it stopped - in fact unlikely to happen in the first place.
There has to be rules and standards which are adhered to by all at all times.
However that panorama programme could not have been made without the help and input of the Muslim communities of the areas involved. Nuff said!
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Sorry, I thought that the self imposed thought police of Scoobynet that are JTaylor and his sidekick Two Personas said we are no longer allowed to hide behind smilies so decided to not bother with them.... makes my post so much more than it would be otherwise ... would put a roll of the eyes here but y'know how it is on SN these days!
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I knew Tony was Jewish is pretty obvious jtaylor not too sure but could also be too, either way it's good to have a few Jews shame they couldnt be honest about it from the start. I don't know why it's such a big secret.
Can't see why moderate Muslims should have to explain the actions of weirdos and murderers. Should ordinary Catholics have to do this as regards the IRA? I have never heard of it.
Me personally I DO blame the rep of Ireland for harboring murderers and inciting hatred. If my brother were to murder innocents i would feel the need to condemn his actions and apologise for him!
Most Muslims are culturally 'Socially conservative' (small 'c'), therefore it does not come naturally to them to seek out publicity and try to correct the views of others. What most of them do is to sit quietly in their homes, shaking their heads slowly at what they see around them, from both 'sides' and hope that things will eventually get better.
What is wrong here is that the real issues, those which need to be discussed, are no longer talked about enough. The reason why it seems, in my opinion, is that Muslims are too scared to express themselves on normal political matters, as that stage seemes to have been stolen by a small group of idiots and these people are the only ones listened to by the media.
The morons burning poppies for instance: any serious point that they might have had is completely ignored by the howls of protest at what they did. Anyone trying to have a discussion on those issues will be immediately tarred by the same brush as them. It's impossible.
The morons burning poppies for instance: any serious point that they might have had is completely ignored by the howls of protest at what they did. Anyone trying to have a discussion on those issues will be immediately tarred by the same brush as them. It's impossible.
If their community (some of which had grandparents fight in the same war
) were that concerned about it are they still allowed in their mosques and who taught them this kind of idiology in the first place?
If you want to see how to take at least 90% of the wind out of the sails of Al Qaida and so on, around the whole World, then read this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...t-2139101.html
This is where the solution is. All we are doing is to deny the real problems, gloss over doing anything about them, because our politicians are in the pay of the Israeli Lobby in Westminster and try to treat the symptoms only, such as these schools.
It is only going to get worse, a lot worse.
Asif
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...t-2139101.html
This is where the solution is. All we are doing is to deny the real problems, gloss over doing anything about them, because our politicians are in the pay of the Israeli Lobby in Westminster and try to treat the symptoms only, such as these schools.
It is only going to get worse, a lot worse.
Asif
This is a little off topic and WILL offend but people need to understand that Israel are the real victims and that Muslims are being spoon fed nonsense across the world even now just as asif has kindly pointed out for us even though he is not aware of it.
A history lesson in the run up to 1948 war (which Muslim Arab states started).
In the newly internationally determined state Arabs and Jews were to share both military and civil service. Hebrew and Arabic were to have the same legal standing, and “in every cabinet where the prime minister is a Jew, the vice-premiership shall be offered to an Arab and vice-versa.”
If this was the act of a “militant” faction of the Jewish national movement, mainstream Zionism it took for granted the full equality of the Arab minority in the future Jewish state but went out of its way to foster Arab-Jewish coexistence.
This raised the standard of living of its Arab inhabitants well above that in neighboring Arab states. expansion of Arab industry and agriculture was largely financed by the capital and through Jewish know-how. In Palestine, ordinary Arabs were persecuted and murdered by their alleged betters for the crime of “selling Palestine” to the Jews!
On the day of independence Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq attacked Israel and the Palestinians were asked to leave by the Arab states until it was over. they lost of course but signed a peace treaty between themselves and NOT with Israel.
As far as I'm concerned present day actions by Israel albeit condemned by the UN (not a rarity in the middle east) ARE justified. I personally would do alot worse!
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please can we not let this descend into a Jew vs. Muslim or Muslim vs. Jew.
TdW has be known to troll (yes really!) and we are supposed to take his word on such a contentious issue that could easily let this thread and debate down.
No personal 'slaggings' please is what i am trying to say
You Leave Gazza out of this he is still in morning for Raoul Moat!
please can we not let this descend into a Jew vs. Muslim or Muslim vs. Jew.
TdW has be known to troll (yes really!) and we are supposed to take his word on such a contentious issue that could easily let this thread and debate down.
No personal 'slaggings' please is what i am trying to say
please can we not let this descend into a Jew vs. Muslim or Muslim vs. Jew.
TdW has be known to troll (yes really!) and we are supposed to take his word on such a contentious issue that could easily let this thread and debate down.
No personal 'slaggings' please is what i am trying to say
Fair point fella
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You Leave Gazza out of this he is still in morning for Raoul Moat!
please can we not let this descend into a Jew vs. Muslim or Muslim vs. Jew.
TdW has be known to troll (yes really!) and we are supposed to take his word on such a contentious issue that could easily let this thread and debate down.
No personal 'slaggings' please is what i am trying to say
please can we not let this descend into a Jew vs. Muslim or Muslim vs. Jew.
TdW has be known to troll (yes really!) and we are supposed to take his word on such a contentious issue that could easily let this thread and debate down.
No personal 'slaggings' please is what i am trying to say
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**** nose, he's got a facking big nose, he's got a facking nose............... from many a terrace on saturdays
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Barry Manilow if you wish
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Now they're big ******* noses!
Chalky!
Or
Barry Manilow if you wish
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Now they're big ******* noses!
Chalky!
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Seems fair, Paul.
You missed out a or ...or did you...
and leave the yid alone
J Taylor - my point about any faith school is that any faith school that is teaching values that are not in line with this countries laws and culture teach intolerance and hatred are a serious problem and need to be stopped and regulated/regularly assessed. Yes the program is focussed on the Muslim faith and particular schools but my point is valid and relevant and i am not one to singularly blame some Muslim schools alone and regulate and inspect just Muslim schools as i cannot think of too many ways of excluding and disenfranchising and recruiting people to an extreme view other than by singling them out and then victimising them. All schools should be inspected regardless of faith and full or part time education and all loop-holes closed.
you must be fair, open and honest about how and who you inspect. The results will speak for themselves.
I managed to catch some of the programme as well as getting two badly behaved (was it a full moon???) kids to bed and more importantly to sleep. It appeared that Panorama was accusing some Islamic schools of allowing preachings of hate by certain people/clerics/scholars one in particular who has a history of anti Semitic and anti anybody else's views and religions and the venues and their owners/trustees where deigning that the content was either allowed in front of children/pupils.
Even so i find it bad that anybody is allowed to preach intolerance and hatred and imagine this.
Nick Griffin or Combat18 going into schools with a couple of far right wing speakers and preaching to a purely white audience of kids intolerance and mistrust of other cultures - there would be an outcry and it stopped - in fact unlikely to happen in the first place.
There has to be rules and standards which are adhered to by all at all times.
However that panorama programme could not have been made without the help and input of the Muslim communities of the areas involved. Nuff said!
or ...or did you...and leave the yid alone
J Taylor - my point about any faith school is that any faith school that is teaching values that are not in line with this countries laws and culture teach intolerance and hatred are a serious problem and need to be stopped and regulated/regularly assessed. Yes the program is focussed on the Muslim faith and particular schools but my point is valid and relevant and i am not one to singularly blame some Muslim schools alone and regulate and inspect just Muslim schools as i cannot think of too many ways of excluding and disenfranchising and recruiting people to an extreme view other than by singling them out and then victimising them. All schools should be inspected regardless of faith and full or part time education and all loop-holes closed.
you must be fair, open and honest about how and who you inspect. The results will speak for themselves.
I managed to catch some of the programme as well as getting two badly behaved (was it a full moon???) kids to bed and more importantly to sleep. It appeared that Panorama was accusing some Islamic schools of allowing preachings of hate by certain people/clerics/scholars one in particular who has a history of anti Semitic and anti anybody else's views and religions and the venues and their owners/trustees where deigning that the content was either allowed in front of children/pupils.
Even so i find it bad that anybody is allowed to preach intolerance and hatred and imagine this.
Nick Griffin or Combat18 going into schools with a couple of far right wing speakers and preaching to a purely white audience of kids intolerance and mistrust of other cultures - there would be an outcry and it stopped - in fact unlikely to happen in the first place.
There has to be rules and standards which are adhered to by all at all times.
However that panorama programme could not have been made without the help and input of the Muslim communities of the areas involved. Nuff said!
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well well well another anti muslim thread. quelle surprise. you lot didn't bat an eyelid when the prods and the taigs in northern ireland where killing each other with claw hammers, pulling people into black taxis on the shankill road and torturing them by pulling their teeth out with pliers, or drilling their knee caps off.
you guys need to get a sense of proportion.
you guys need to get a sense of proportion.
Les
