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A couple of weekends back I took the car to Blyton for the Brightgreendetailing mlr sprint.
Its taken me a while to get around to writing up what happened with it overall being a pretty annoying day I havent really been enfused to find the time to do so lol.
The format works that you are assigned a number (I was number 29) and you queue up in order and do a run around the circuit..
First practice run came a bit quicker than I expected after the briefing and jumped in to find the battery flat.. doh..
So I went out for a passenger ride in Damiens car and CJ's car and was sat there thinking I am not going to be able to abuse my car enough to be competitive, I have made a mistake bringing it.. then my run came and in the queue for the start line realised that I hadnt even launched the car yet as the uprated shafts only went in two days before and I didnt bother trying to brake the originals...
make it to the line..

light changed to green.. and I am away, launch feeling pretty good


wheel spin, next gear, more wheel spin, next gear and grip and it feels good.. brake and turn into first fast bend, feels good.. get to next slower bend (damn I havent turned powersteering on lol, flick it on, thats easier), rest of the lap felt good.. plenty more time to come but main exercise to check the car handles okay and the baffled sump works well enough for circuit work.. both all good, and I was wrong as I enjoyed abusing it

Next practice comes and I am more relaxed with the car and start pushing it a little more, still on the vpower 1.1bar map, this time CJ is in passenger seat. lots of fun trying to keep car in a straight line and not sideways under power out of bends..
Second practice is some 6seconds quicker than the first one and I still dont really know the circuit.. really starting to enjoy myself.
Third practice run and Damien comes out in passenger seat... I decided to up the boost a little and selected the 1.4bar setting.
Launch isnt too bad, get to first bend doing about 110mph and lift off the throttle and engine doesnt decellerate.. the throttles jammed fully open..
****.. kill switch and on the brakes and into the area beside the bend (luck it was there).
Towed back to the pits with tail between my legs lol.
stripped throttle over lunch and can find nothing wrong.. not particularly clean but nothing obvious so a good clean and it is working freely with no issues..
after lunch go out for first timed run with Daz Davies in the passenger seat..
Unfortunatly the throttle issue was still there and it was again game over at the first bend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MpBm...e_gdata_player
I then spent a fair bit of time stripping it down and the second spring appeared to be doubling over so as a last ditch attempt the second spring was removed and the throttle cable slackenned right off.. the problem was I couldnt test it as sat there it worked perfectly with engine running or not but only jammed after the launch etc.. even sat in the car with throttle pinned for a few seconds and it wouldnt stick and worked freely..
Many thanks to anyone else that helped out too at this point whilst I was stressing.
Out again and same thing.. lots of head scratching and then Paul Martin to the rescue, he had had the same issue on his evo, the bearing is pressed in on one side and the boost pressure pushes the bearing out slightly and moves the butterflies with it and they jam.. hence we couldnt simulate the issue in the pits and ones moved the throttle was fine.
Temporay fix done but decide it wasnt worth the risk running the car again with only 2 runs left before the end of the day, if it jammed at the end of the back straight it would be game over. Thats motorsport I guess.

Happy the car handled well enough to be thrown about and the sump held off surge (at least for my practice sessions anyway, yet to be seen at higher G).
suspension updates planned as although the car handled okay there is a lot of body roll and Lift under power

Simon
Its taken me a while to get around to writing up what happened with it overall being a pretty annoying day I havent really been enfused to find the time to do so lol.
The format works that you are assigned a number (I was number 29) and you queue up in order and do a run around the circuit..
First practice run came a bit quicker than I expected after the briefing and jumped in to find the battery flat.. doh..
So I went out for a passenger ride in Damiens car and CJ's car and was sat there thinking I am not going to be able to abuse my car enough to be competitive, I have made a mistake bringing it.. then my run came and in the queue for the start line realised that I hadnt even launched the car yet as the uprated shafts only went in two days before and I didnt bother trying to brake the originals...
make it to the line..
light changed to green.. and I am away, launch feeling pretty good
wheel spin, next gear, more wheel spin, next gear and grip and it feels good.. brake and turn into first fast bend, feels good.. get to next slower bend (damn I havent turned powersteering on lol, flick it on, thats easier), rest of the lap felt good.. plenty more time to come but main exercise to check the car handles okay and the baffled sump works well enough for circuit work.. both all good, and I was wrong as I enjoyed abusing it

Next practice comes and I am more relaxed with the car and start pushing it a little more, still on the vpower 1.1bar map, this time CJ is in passenger seat. lots of fun trying to keep car in a straight line and not sideways under power out of bends..
Second practice is some 6seconds quicker than the first one and I still dont really know the circuit.. really starting to enjoy myself.
Third practice run and Damien comes out in passenger seat... I decided to up the boost a little and selected the 1.4bar setting.
Launch isnt too bad, get to first bend doing about 110mph and lift off the throttle and engine doesnt decellerate.. the throttles jammed fully open..
****.. kill switch and on the brakes and into the area beside the bend (luck it was there).
Towed back to the pits with tail between my legs lol.
stripped throttle over lunch and can find nothing wrong.. not particularly clean but nothing obvious so a good clean and it is working freely with no issues..
after lunch go out for first timed run with Daz Davies in the passenger seat..
Unfortunatly the throttle issue was still there and it was again game over at the first bend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MpBm...e_gdata_player
I then spent a fair bit of time stripping it down and the second spring appeared to be doubling over so as a last ditch attempt the second spring was removed and the throttle cable slackenned right off.. the problem was I couldnt test it as sat there it worked perfectly with engine running or not but only jammed after the launch etc.. even sat in the car with throttle pinned for a few seconds and it wouldnt stick and worked freely..
Many thanks to anyone else that helped out too at this point whilst I was stressing.
Out again and same thing.. lots of head scratching and then Paul Martin to the rescue, he had had the same issue on his evo, the bearing is pressed in on one side and the boost pressure pushes the bearing out slightly and moves the butterflies with it and they jam.. hence we couldnt simulate the issue in the pits and ones moved the throttle was fine.
Temporay fix done but decide it wasnt worth the risk running the car again with only 2 runs left before the end of the day, if it jammed at the end of the back straight it would be game over. Thats motorsport I guess.
Happy the car handled well enough to be thrown about and the sump held off surge (at least for my practice sessions anyway, yet to be seen at higher G).
suspension updates planned as although the car handled okay there is a lot of body roll and Lift under power
Simon
Sounds like it was just a serious testing day, and you came out knowing more about your car, and yet nothing got broke, so that's all good in my eyes. As you said it could have been much worse, imagine having that issues at say castle combe or knock hill.... eeeek.
Rob
Rob
Was a great days testing. The car is so so quick. I have been in several quick cars but this was the first time I actually voiced my astonishment (f'in hell this is quick) lol. Big well done to Simon for getting out there and putting the car through its paces.
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Made a few changes as a result of the day already and a few more to come.
Rev limiter going up as I cant believe how quick it got there with a little wheel spin added.
Simon
Rev limiter going up as I cant believe how quick it got there with a little wheel spin added.
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With totb coming up thought it time to get some jobs on the car sorted.
Main thing being it needs to be able to dress in drag and still play on the handling circuit and track.
Trailered the car over to tfs racing today for us to work on it

New suspension
New brakes
New wheels and tyres
New handbrake
Clutch switch and flatshift setup
Oil and filter change
Will sort some better pics but you get the idea





Massive thanks to stew, craig and ian.
Also thanks to Alyn at as performance for posting out brakes bits at short notice
Simon
Main thing being it needs to be able to dress in drag and still play on the handling circuit and track.
Trailered the car over to tfs racing today for us to work on it
New suspension
New brakes
New wheels and tyres
New handbrake
Clutch switch and flatshift setup
Oil and filter change
Will sort some better pics but you get the idea
Massive thanks to stew, craig and ian.
Also thanks to Alyn at as performance for posting out brakes bits at short notice

Simon
Did the small wheels and high profile 'balloon' tyres not give it away?
It's for the dragstrip set-up i.e. brakes not important, so small 'rubbish' ones to save some (unsprung) weight.
I expect for dragstrip runs, Si will remove the rear wing too(?)
I'm guessing that's the reason, anyhow(?)
It's for the dragstrip set-up i.e. brakes not important, so small 'rubbish' ones to save some (unsprung) weight.
I expect for dragstrip runs, Si will remove the rear wing too(?)
I'm guessing that's the reason, anyhow(?)
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Alyn supplied some pads and disks that will hopefully stop it if used in short bursts, we will see but not needed on drag anyway.
Fast and furious handbrake for handling circuit and I assumed woukd cut some weight but standard setup wasnt actually that heavy.
Simon
Fast and furious handbrake for handling circuit and I assumed woukd cut some weight but standard setup wasnt actually that heavy.
Simon
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You not fitting the carbon wing for totb? I have one to go on mine just for track but Steven has told me he doesn't think it will make any difference as compared to my standard spoiler? I just fancy mine on for totb to give my car a bit different look.
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Part way through a weekend of the best fun possible with your clothes on 
Friday used a hub dyno at tdi to play with the fuel map and check over of the car. Due to time constraints mainly played on vpower but was v happy with 662hp at 1.4bar on vpower and similar lb torque. Did have brief check on vpower plus 20% meth and made similar power at only 1.2bar. At which point I had enough data to be happy to map from datalogs when car was being used in anger.
Then travelled north for totb and installed a "how can you miss it" big rev counter and shift light and a toucan display for monitoring ecu data, and a couple of new graphics on the car.
Saturdays playtime and really pleased to get a baseline on this setup and get a good feel for the car.
Its first quarter mile run ever being 11.11secs on the toyo r888 tyres.
With little alteration physically to the car all day just map tweaks and alterations to my driving and hoosier drag radials the times slowly dropped to 10.01secs which I did twice lol. Not run on racefuel yet or used flatshift so still more to come hopefully, especially if I can get a clean run in.
Massively pleased with how the cars behaved, and massive thanks to team JGM pit crew and support (CJ, Damien, Ian and Stew@TFS racing) and anyone I have forgot.
Simon

Friday used a hub dyno at tdi to play with the fuel map and check over of the car. Due to time constraints mainly played on vpower but was v happy with 662hp at 1.4bar on vpower and similar lb torque. Did have brief check on vpower plus 20% meth and made similar power at only 1.2bar. At which point I had enough data to be happy to map from datalogs when car was being used in anger.
Then travelled north for totb and installed a "how can you miss it" big rev counter and shift light and a toucan display for monitoring ecu data, and a couple of new graphics on the car.
Saturdays playtime and really pleased to get a baseline on this setup and get a good feel for the car.
Its first quarter mile run ever being 11.11secs on the toyo r888 tyres.
With little alteration physically to the car all day just map tweaks and alterations to my driving and hoosier drag radials the times slowly dropped to 10.01secs which I did twice lol. Not run on racefuel yet or used flatshift so still more to come hopefully, especially if I can get a clean run in.
Massively pleased with how the cars behaved, and massive thanks to team JGM pit crew and support (CJ, Damien, Ian and Stew@TFS racing) and anyone I have forgot.
Simon
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Part way through a weekend of the best fun possible with your clothes on 
Friday used a hub dyno at tdi to play with the fuel map and check over of the car. Due to time constraints mainly played on vpower but was v happy with 662hp at 1.4bar on vpower and similar lb torque. Did have brief check on vpower plus 20% meth and made similar power at only 1.2bar. At which point I had enough data to be happy to map from datalogs when car was being used in anger.
Then travelled north for totb and installed a "how can you miss it" big rev counter and shift light and a toucan display for monitoring ecu data, and a couple of new graphics on the car.
Saturdays playtime and really pleased to get a baseline on this setup and get a good feel for the car.
Its first quarter mile run ever being 11.11secs on the toyo r888 tyres.
With little alteration physically to the car all day just map tweaks and alterations to my driving and hoosier drag radials the times slowly dropped to 10.01secs which I did twice lol. Not run on racefuel yet or used flatshift so still more to come hopefully, especially if I can get a clean run in.
Massively pleased with how the cars behaved, and massive thanks to team JGM pit crew and support (CJ, Damien, Ian and Stew@TFS racing) and anyone I have forgot.
Simon

Friday used a hub dyno at tdi to play with the fuel map and check over of the car. Due to time constraints mainly played on vpower but was v happy with 662hp at 1.4bar on vpower and similar lb torque. Did have brief check on vpower plus 20% meth and made similar power at only 1.2bar. At which point I had enough data to be happy to map from datalogs when car was being used in anger.
Then travelled north for totb and installed a "how can you miss it" big rev counter and shift light and a toucan display for monitoring ecu data, and a couple of new graphics on the car.
Saturdays playtime and really pleased to get a baseline on this setup and get a good feel for the car.
Its first quarter mile run ever being 11.11secs on the toyo r888 tyres.
With little alteration physically to the car all day just map tweaks and alterations to my driving and hoosier drag radials the times slowly dropped to 10.01secs which I did twice lol. Not run on racefuel yet or used flatshift so still more to come hopefully, especially if I can get a clean run in.
Massively pleased with how the cars behaved, and massive thanks to team JGM pit crew and support (CJ, Damien, Ian and Stew@TFS racing) and anyone I have forgot.
Simon








