quick play with e46 M3
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As a very crude rule of thumb torque means you are quicker getting there. But more Bhp counts more once at the top end speeds. So the amount of torque coupled with the gearing and how light the car is will have more effect on acceleration than HP.
I have seen this at 140mph plus in the scoob regularly. Once you are at those speeds all the accelerative advantage of light weight and torque have been lost and how much bhp counts for more.
I have seen this at 140mph plus in the scoob regularly. Once you are at those speeds all the accelerative advantage of light weight and torque have been lost and how much bhp counts for more.
Torque is what 4 wheel drive is all about, it really makes a big difference. I've noticed that properly mapped imprezas really benifit in the torque hikes, as opposed to non mapped cars which can have high bhp, but the torque always lets it down.
I had a go with my mate , mine Hawkeye WRX 285bhp , him in his m3 02plate and he pulled away 20 -100 run . He got about a 2 car lengths on me . Standing run , i used the launch control but he realed me at 60plus and took me ....HMM need a bit more i thinks ....lol
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Agreed dnc. 
Top of the list for my next car is a Hawk Sti (then Milltek, remap etc). An e46 is a close second. BM's hold their price better, so if I got one it would be older. My mates think I should go for the M3, although their reasoning seems to be mostly based on the badge (I realise there's much more to them than that!).
How would a an M3 and a remapped (ie lightly modded) Newage STi compare on a track, in the dry?
Top of the list for my next car is a Hawk Sti (then Milltek, remap etc). An e46 is a close second. BM's hold their price better, so if I got one it would be older. My mates think I should go for the M3, although their reasoning seems to be mostly based on the badge (I realise there's much more to them than that!).
How would a an M3 and a remapped (ie lightly modded) Newage STi compare on a track, in the dry?
Another thing I would add - is that the M3 is a ““better ““ autobahn car. The Germans build their cars for autobahn style performance, subaru dont. It is also a way better car to live with on a daily basis. As a refined powerful daily driver that can maintain high speeds it beats my Subaru hands down.
My car isnt a daily driver, it is noisy, loud and brutaly quick, way more fun and smile inducing than an M3. Eat my dust lol.
If I had to get in a car every day and drive it to work and back then the slightly sterile tutonicaly efficent rapid high speed mile eating M3 is the better car.
My car isnt a daily driver, it is noisy, loud and brutaly quick, way more fun and smile inducing than an M3. Eat my dust lol.
If I had to get in a car every day and drive it to work and back then the slightly sterile tutonicaly efficent rapid high speed mile eating M3 is the better car.
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